If The Bible Is The Word Of God...

by XJW4EVR 210 Replies latest jw friends

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    and what proof do you have isaac that it's that and not birth that is the correct translation? other than that your theology demands it! so any reference to Jesus being born or birthed like provs 8, like first born, like begotten called God's son have to be explained away. To fit in with your theology.

    Reniaa

    My reply: Quite simply, Acts 13;33, Romans 8

    Romans 1:3,4; concerning his Son, who sprang from the seed of David according to the flesh, 4 but who with power was declared God’s Son according to the spirit of holiness by means of resurrection from the dead—yes, Jesus Christ our Lord,

    2 clear verses showing that he took on this title at his resurrection. Overall context shows this. Proverbs 8 is speaking of wisdom, as well as other qualities personified. It does not in any way address some so-called creation of jesus. Anyone reading that chapter with half an ounce of reading comprehension can see that.

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    the other issues have also been addressed in other threads...sonship, firstborn etc...

  • Spike Tassel
    Spike Tassel

    Who does Proverbs 8:22 refer to, then, if not the pre-human Jesus?

  • Spike Tassel
    Spike Tassel

    spiritual comprehension is one of humility, not of arrogance.

  • Narkissos
  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    wisdom Spike. Verse 2 personifies wisdom as a she. I also ask you who is understanding who raises her voice? Who is experience that wisdom dwells with? Or judicious knowledge that she attains?

    You are right spiritual humility is needed, not arrogance. Learn from that boy.

  • Spike Tassel
    Spike Tassel

    "boy" is a word of arrogance, I humbly suggest

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    no arrogance intended...just descriptive....

  • Spike Tassel
    Spike Tassel

    I disagree on isaacaustin's "justification" in Post 2262. After all, what about isaacaustin's Post 2248 "Go read John 1:18 and maybe, perhaps this will click in your little mind.", especially in light of Narkissos's more neutral input at his Post 9488.

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    Post 9488 refers to another thread. I looked at that thread and did not see what you are trying to get at. Please post here what you think is relevant.. I see things the way I do,especially in light of Acts and Romans.

    I am not ignoring you the rest of the day but am leaving for company barbecue soon. Yummy. Might not be back till Monday.

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