Whistleblower Speaks Out On What Really Happens in US Healthcare (page 5)

drwtsn32

You are kidding me... right? EVERY government plan, regardless of where it is, rations care.

So you think the government will deny coverage? That is not my experience with Australian health care.

What is a fact is private health insurance companies can and do deny valid claims. They can and do set a lifetime limit on coverage. When something major happens, people often are forced into bankruptcy. IMO this kind of crap is unacceptable.

In general I am for free markets, but when it comes to the health insurance industry, they have shown themselves to be a detriment to society.

beksbks

This country is going to go to hell if right wing nutbags don't blink and start thinking for themselves. What the hell is it? Something in the water? Fear of responsibility?? Too much TV?

leavingwt

I feel that a citizen can be in favor of Health Care Reform, but oppose the current bill being discussed. A large majority want reform. However, support of the House bill is eroding.

I like the idea of tackling the BIG negatives that a majority agree upon already.

WashPo: Obama's Plan Isn't the Answer

At a time when medical science offers the hope of major improvements in the treatment of a wide range of dread diseases, should Washington be limiting the available care and, in the process, discouraging medical researchers from developing new procedures and products? Although health care is much more expensive than it was 30 years ago, who today would settle for the health care of the 1970s?

Obama has said that he would favor a British-style "single payer" system in which the government owns the hospitals and the doctors are salaried but that he recognizes that such a shift would be too disruptive to the health-care industry. The Obama plan to have a government insurance provider that can undercut the premiums charged by private insurers would undoubtedly speed the arrival of such a single-payer plan. It is hard to think of any other reason for the administration to want a government insurer when there is already a very competitive private insurance market that could be made more so by removing government restrictions on interstate competition.

There is much that can be done to improve our health-care system, but the Obama plan is not the way to do it. One helpful change that could be made right away is fixing the COBRA system so that middle-income households that lose their insurance because of early retirement or a permanent layoff are not deterred by the cost of continuing their previous coverage.

Now that congressional leaders have made it clear that Obama will not see health legislation until at least the end of the year, the president should look beyond health policy and turn his attention to the problems that are impeding our economic recovery.

Mastodon

This country is going to go to hell if right wing nutbags don't blink and start thinking for themselves. What the hell is it? Something in the water? Fear of responsibility?? Too much TV?

Aside from having a lot of nutbags, the republican party has been taken over by the religious right... and in my experience, people that have a hard-on for the end of the world don't really give a shit about what happens to everyone else...

leavingwt

A group of six Senators are working on some type of bipartisan "deal", according to this NY Times article. It seems that their deal does not include a government-run plan and it doesn't include a high-earner income surtax.

Already, the group of six has tossed aside the idea of a government-run insurance plan that would compete with private insurers, which the president supports but Republicans said was a deal-breaker.

Instead, they are proposing a network of private, nonprofit cooperatives.

They have also dismissed the House Democratic plan to pay for the bill’s roughly $1 trillion, 10-year cost partly with an income surtax on high earners.

The three Republicans have insisted that any new taxes come from within the health care arena. As one option, Democrats have proposed taxing high-end insurance plans with values exceeding $25,000.

The Senate group also seems prepared to drop a requirement, included in other versions of the legislation, that employers offer coverage to their workers. “We don’t mandate employer coverage,” Senator Olympia J. Snowe, Republican of Maine and one of the six, said Monday. Employers that do not offer coverage may instead have to pay the cost of any government subsidies for which their workers qualify. In the House, centrist Democrats have temporarily stalled the health care bill, many lawmakers want to see what Mr. Baucus’s group produces before voting on tax increases in the House bill.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/28/us/politics/28baucus.html?_r=1&hp

LWT, you realize that I make a distinction between right leaning people, and right wing nutbags?

Yes, thanks.

Whistleblower Speaks Out On What Really Happens in US Healthcare

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