reniaa
"I changed my mind..."
Important day in your life.
as with every discussion this boils down to one point people having to proof Jesus is the one true God. Here is another contradiction revealed. Jesus cannot be a messenger to the one true God and the one true God himself.
Nice try. You keep thinking you can patch up your belief by tarring down someone else's. You need to forget about the trinity while you defend your byunity belief. Go start your own trinity thread.
So all witnesses believe is that michael is simply another by which Jesus acts underlike he acts under the name of 'the lamb' like he acts under the name of 'the word' like he acts under the name of 'Jesus' or he acts under the name of "christ" which unlike some believe isn't his sir name but the reference to him being the annointed.
I'm sure if you're speaking as a R&F (or average Joe) JW, this is how you think about it. But that's not what the WT teaches. WT doctrine on this matter, is far more confusing (and unbiblical) than anything a trinitarian believes. You and Spike are living proof of it.
At this point you or isaac may say well as a man Jesus he wasn't superior but that would argue against trinitarian doctrine of fully 100% man and m 100% God at the same time which is trying to say Jesus is God in all his 3 cycles so always superior to angels.
This is off topic. But, you have the same problem. For Jesus to be 100% man, would mean that nothing came down from heaven.
You also need him to be 100% man today, to be qualified as your mediator.
1Ti 2:3
This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God, 4 whose will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, 6who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all-[this is] what is to be witnessed to at its own particular times. NWT
Put this on your trinity thread.
To acknowledge Jesus is 100% percent God while a man on earth is to put all the following points from scripture at fault, 'Made himself little lower than angels' sacrificed for us' 'emptied himself' 'became' greater. because in everyone it refers to Jesus as a whole and that he can be lower or emptied below other spirit creatures something the "One true God" can't be. So trinitarians in their own minds must say this is only refering to the man part of Jesus they have developed in their own doctrine outside of the bible with no backing from the scriptures that obstinately refer to Jesus as a whole not in parts in all these scriptures.
It's off topic here.