IS THE WATCHTOWER A FALSE PROPHET?

by You Know 207 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • You Know
    You Know
    dont you get it? everything they print is supposedly coming from this special form of communication.

    I do get it. You are an idiot I am sorry to say. I had suspected as much all along, but now, you have pretty much convinced me of your true mental state. I suppose I should be ashamed for even having dealings with you on this level. I called your bluff and you are dancing around pretending that you answered the challenge I posed. It's complete silliness. Anyone who believes this nonsense your pedalling is hopelessly stupid I am afraid, and I doubt if there is much that can really been done for such an unfortunate soul.

    / You Know

  • tfs
    tfs

    You Know,

    Please reread and carefully consider the following quote from the WTS that "AF" gave you.

    "Certain duties and kingdom interests have been committed by the Lord to his angels, which include the TRANSMISSION OF INFORMATION to God's anointed people on the earth for their aid and comfort. Even though we cannot understand how the angels TRANSMIT THIS INFORMATION, we know that they do it. (Preparation, 1933, pp. 36, 37.)"

    The Bible says the "Law was TRANSMITTED by angels" to Moses, God's mediator. That's inspiration. (Acts 7:53; Gal. 3:19)

    Exactly what is said above. Do you not see what is said here?

    This is the claim of the WTS to the general public and to all JWs. The above statement is an obvious claim of inspiration from God.

    After all is said and done, if you cannot for the life of you perceive, comprehend or recognize what the above statement is saying, then its a safe bet to say you are quite possibly insane.

    tfs

  • dubla
    dubla

    yk-

    calling someone an idiot may be a nice way to dodge the argument, but you are still transparent to all. i answered your question, and you have no refute, other than your typical mindless insults.

    its a very simple equation, and all your dismissing it as silliness doesnt take anything away from it. the watchtower claims to be inspired by angelic direction, therefore the words printed in the watchtower are supposedly inspired by angelic direction.

    aa

  • Will Power
    Will Power

    Good Morning All

    Since their predictions never come true, maybe these angels are from the lower realm? Can You Know please describe how they know the difference when the WT written word has been wrong so often?
    Also didn't Johannes Greber get his info from the spirit world?
    And didn't the WT warn against this evil practice?

    Two scales

  • You Know
    You Know
    Please reread and carefully consider the following quote from the WTS that "AF" gave you.

    Please, read my question again, carefully. Here, I will re-word it for you: If the angels have transmitted extra-biblical information into the minds of Jehovah's Witnesses, in the form of a prophecy or whatever, please explain to me what these transmissions consist of? Everything I have ever read in the Watchtower is fully acreditted as coming from the Bible. I suppose I have read just about everything the Watchtower has written back to about 1950 and yet I can't recall ever coming across anything that the Watchtower attributed to direct divine transmission.

    I explained how God's spirit and angels can direct us in the path of the truth. Angels could be said to lead us to discover Biblical truth, as in the early days of the Bible Students, which I am sure they felt was a result of anglic direction. So, since AF has found this Watchtower quote that claims divine direction, which you have interpreted to mean that they are claiming to have directly received some sort of message from God, surely there must be some evidence of these extra-biblical communications in the Watchtower archives somewhere? So, my challenge stands. / You Know

  • Will Power
    Will Power

    "THIS GROUP ACTS AS A PROPHET OF GOD."
    april 1st 1972 pg 197

    What kind of prophet?

    There you go, you can start your circular reasoning all over again YK.

  • dubla
    dubla

    yk-

    i realize you wish to continue on this tangent, and im not trying to muddy the waters, but this statement by you raises more questions:

    I explained how God's spirit and angels can direct us in the path of the truth. Angels could be said to lead us to discover Biblical truth
    so when the watchtower gets it wrong, as in all the many many blunders, did the angels direct the watchtower in the wrong path? do the angels only direct the watchtower in the path of truth when they get it right? how do you know which words in the watchtower are from angelic direction, and therefore correct in "bibilcal truth", and which ones are completely false (1975, etc.)? do you just guess? or do you follow them all blindly, as most have, until corrected?

    aa

  • YoYoMama
    YoYoMama
    so when the watchtower gets it wrong, as in all the many many blunders

    This statement is an exageration. Could you post all the blunders and then post all the Bible truths that they go right?

  • Vitameatavegamin
    Vitameatavegamin

    YouKnow,

    Yes, the Society does base it's teachings on the Bible, that is not the argument here. But, maybe it is THEIR interpretation of the scriptures, not necessarily the absolute meaning. I have always wondered how the society arrives at the conclusion that they and they alone are the only group in the entire world that is able to accurately interpret Bible. How do they really know for sure? Every organized religion in the world feels that they are THE true one. And they can all use scripture to back up their position.

    I am struggling with this issue as an inactive JW. I have seen and am currently experiencing much injustice all in the name of God and the Society. The Bible clearly states not to add to the things written. But, in my opinion, the Society puts their own spin on scriptures. They can justify anything they want to by quoting a scripture whether or not it directly means what they want it to. Personally, my belief is that God put in the Bible what he wanted us to understand clearly, such as commandments, etc. But there is so much to the Bible that is speculation, I think that as mere humans, we are just not qualified to understand everything 100% in the Bible. So much symbolism. Yes, I do respect the Bible very much and follow what I do understand. But maybe God will allow us to know more in His due time. Maybe we all should stop judging one another on issues maybe we don't completely understand yet.

    Just my thoughts.

    Thank you.

  • YoYoMama
    YoYoMama
    I have always wondered how the society arrives at the conclusion that they and they alone are the only group in the entire world that is able to accurately interpret Bible. How do they really know for sure?

    We fulfill Bible prophesy. To understand, you must study the Revelation book.

    Every organized religion in the world feels that they are THE true one. And they can all use scripture to back up their position.
    This is true, but there is only one way. You have to decide which one it is.

    But maybe God will allow us to know more in His due time. Maybe we all should stop judging one another on issues maybe we don't completely understand yet.
    Exactly. Jehovah is the one with all the answers and he will provide guidance at his own time. That is why we should not make matters that we don't fully understand trivial.

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