IS THE WATCHTOWER A FALSE PROPHET? (page 19)

AlanF

We note once again the complete lack of substantive response by JW defenders to devastatingly true information.

AlanF

Will Power

Excellent writing AlanF.
This should be next week's talk.
or
Larry King's next guest

Hope we don't have to wait too long for a reply.

607BCisAbigLIE

YoYoma:

They're not many, many. You can count them with the fingers of your hand. In the other hand, how many Bible truths have the Witnesses brought attention to? That's the significant number.

Not so many Bible truth, as I have seen on ex-JW personal pages

607BCisAbigLIE

YoYoMA:

Well, go on, because it does not. You just repeat dates like a robot. 1881, 1914, 1918, etc... The brothers were not predicting, but trying to understand Bible chronology and prophesy. They were not telling the reader what to believe, but to come to their own conclusions on the scriptures.

Again, you'r wrong. They could have DFd someone just to critisize those "new lights". On sites made by ex-JWs (and don't say they're apostates, some have been there longer than you, and sometime on priviligiated positions), we have access to archived WTs, Awake, and other WT publications that say otherwise. Go and see for yourself (I'm not here to direct you on a particular web site just type "jehovah" in your search engine and go explore).

607BCisAbigLIE

Utopian:

If the understanding cannot be confirmed, it is not an understanding, it is an assertion. Is not faith "assured" hope in the things "expected", but not seen?

You're right on it. I also think that the only mesurement of salvation should be the faith and only the faith. That's the only thing that makes you really work for God, like contributing to humanitarian help (other than just "religious"), saving a life (not the eternal, as only Jesus/God can save it), or studying His word in its historical context (like understanding the word they used in the Bible that they understood at the times of the writers, and not trying to interpret those words (like Babylon the Great, an expression we should interpret in the context of the apostle John) as if they were said in our time.). The work a JW have to do is beyond what is asked in the Bible, and the gospel they preach is very far from the original.

607BCisAbigLIE

Utopian:

Basically, the underlying question for the individual is, "despite all of the evidence presented and its history", could or should you still continue devoting your personal faith and worship to the WTBS and obey its policies and procedures in order to please Almighty God?

My answer is definetely NO!!

Have a good night

Erich

You Know wrote:

The brothers were not predicting, but trying to understand Bible chronology and prophesy. They were not telling the reader what to believe, but to come to their own conclusions on the scriptures.

TOM (Neon Madman) wrote:

The statements that were made about the generation of 1914 were presented as "Jehovah's prophetic Word through Jesus Christ" and "the Creator's promise."
And the Watchtower absolutely forbids Jehovah's Witnesses to 'come to their own conclusions on the scriptures.'
Such is considered "independent thinking," and one who persists in it can be disfellowshipped as an apostate.

Sorry to say this as an active JW:
Tom said the truth.

In 1992, 3 yrs before WTS changed their view regarding the "generation" , I had a discussion with a brother. I told him that the recent doctrine about that "generation" is failing totally, and the WTS would come into the embarassing situation to change their view. I told him my opinion how the society would go to correct their views and how to stretch the lasting of the "generation".

The brother got shocked. He stared at me speechless. If I would have been revealing my thoughts not to this brother (who is a plain JW and no elder) but to a CO or DO, maybe I'd have been a canditate for disfollowshipment...

3 years later indeed the WTS changed their view in the same way I had anticipated.