Saying that someone makes a leap of faith without proof of any kinds is like saying that aheists are athiests because they don't wanna deal with morals.
It's a tired argument that has been shown false.
Best Argument for Atheism?
by leavingwt 71 Replies latest jw friends
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leavingwt
Logically, all religions cannot be right - but they could all be wrong.
Good point!
Many of the world's religions are mutually exclusive.
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journey-on
I think all great religions have a spark of "truth" in them. However, religion proper has muddied up the path and added so many man-made roadblocks that it has become impossible, imo, to believe that any one of them is all "Truth". I will never be an atheist, however. This is because I have personal experiences that will not allow me to dismiss the existence of an intelligent conscious energy force. I no longer put any emphasis on doctrine and the clinging to a rigid belief system, but rather allow myself to go with the flow of the spiritual energy that I try to stay atuned to. It's hard now to imagine God being put into a little box of religious dogma. We are each an every one an expression of His/Her creation whether we "believe" or not.
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This guys is a scientist (consultant surgeon) and a Christian. He refuses to have faith without some form of evidence. He spoke at our church a couple of weeks ago;
http://media.libsyn.com/media/tartanpodcast/alpha_2010_week3.mp3
Here's the PDF of a his PowerPoint presentation;
http://media.libsyn.com/media/tartanpodcast/Christianity_Reasons_Alpha_Riverside.pdf
Here is his website;
Note for Farkle:
You may find this massively offensive;
Second, unlike the new atheists, I take scholarship seriously. I have written that The God Delusionmade me ashamed to be an atheist and I meant it. Trying to understand how God could need no cause, Christians claim that God exists necessarily. I have taken the effort to try to understand what that means. Dawkins and company are ignorant of such claims and positively contemptuous of those who even try to understand them, let alone believe them. Thus, like a first-year undergraduate, he can happily go around asking loudly, "What caused God?" as though he had made some momentous philosophical discovery. Dawkins was indignant when, on the grounds that inanimate objects cannot have emotions, philosophers like Mary Midgley criticised his metaphorical notionof a selfish gene. Sauce for the biological goose is sauce for the atheist gander. There are a lot of very bright and well informed Christian theologians. We atheists should demand no less.
Third, how dare we be so condescending? I don't have faith. I really don't. Rowan Williams does as do many of my fellow philosophers like Alvin Plantinga(a Protestant) and Ernan McMullin(a Catholic). I think they are wrong; they think I am wrong. But they are not stupid or bad or whatever. If I needed advice about everyday matters, I would turn without hesitation to these men. We are caught in opposing Kuhnianparadigms. I can explain their faith claims in terms of psychology; they can explain my lack of faith claims also probably partly through psychology and probably theology also. (Plantinga, a Calvinist, would refer to original sin.) I just keep hearing Cromwell to the Scots. "I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be mistaken." I don't think I am wrong, but the worth and integrity of so many believers makes me modest in my unbelief.
By Michael Ruse.
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I personally think I have the "God-gene". Faith is difficult at times but I can't image not believing in God and having a relationship with him.
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OUTLAW
The best arguement for God..
The best arguement for Atheism..
Is..
Neither can be proven..
Agnostics don`t pretend to know the answer..
Agnostics accept the fact they don`t know if there is,or is no God..
Believers in God and Athiests have already closed the door on any possibilities..
Of any evidence that may present itself,about the existence of God..
................................ ...OUTLAW
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leavingwt
It's hard now to imagine God being put into a little box of religious dogma.
I hear you. But, those one billion+ fundamentalists give me pause, on occasion.
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PSacramento
Religion is nothing but an attempt by a culture to put a "face" on God and as such, it will vary from culture to culture.
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leavingwt
Religion is nothing but an attempt by a culture to put a "face" on God and as such, it will vary from culture to culture.
This is probably true and it's also one of the reasons I'm not troubled/concerned over not having a certain faith at any given time. Do you understand what I'm saying?
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sir82
With the many thousands of gods out there... a person who believes in just one god is extraordinarily close to being an atheist.
The word "atheist" was first used by the Romans....to describe Christians who rejected all the dozens of gods the Romans believed in!