Hereyago, Mary!
Mary: Inheriting something in no way means that you're going to be living on it "forever".
If you inherit a piece of land from your father, does that automatically mean that
you'll be alive "forever"? Only in the Watchtower World could such stupid reasoning
be considered 'normal.'
Mad: LOLOLOLO! Death will be DONE AWAY with! The Last Enemy Christ conquers!
(1 Cor 15, Rev 21) Do you think they will inherit it NOW, then rapture up,
and it destroyed? Is that YOUR view of an Inheritence from God- a brief, throw-away
ossession?
Mary: Besides, the bible says on various occassions that the earth will end some day:
1- Psalm 102:25-26 "Long ago you laid the foundations of the earth itself, And the
heavens are the work of your hands. 26 They themselves will perish, but you
yourself will keep standing; And just like a garment they will all of them wear out.
Just like clothing you will replace them, and they will finish their turn."
2-Isaiah 51:6 "Raise YOUR eyes to the heavens themselves, and look at the earth beneath.
For the very heavens must be dispersed in fragments just like smoke, and like a garment
the earth itself will wear out, and its inhabitants themselves will die like a mere gnat. But
as for my salvation, it will prove to be even to time indefinite, and my own righteousness
will not be shattered."
3-Matthew 24:34-35 "Truly I say to YOU that this generation will by no means pass away
until all these things occur. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will by
no means pass away."
4-Hebrews 1:10- "You at [the] beginning, O Lord, laid the foundations of the earth itself,
and the heavens are [the] works of your hands.
11- They themselves will perish, but you yourself are to remain continually; and just
like an outer garment they will all grow old, 12 and you will wrap them up just as a
cloak, as an outer garment; and they will be changed, but you are the same, and
your years will never run out."
Mad: These were poetic illustrations to, by contrast, illustrate how Jehovah and His will
last Forever, and the human societies- with the demonic counterpart, will vanish at the
Appointed Time. For example, Heaven will not be destroyed; God and angels will not be
moving to a new location. Heaven and Earth are made NEW!
Rev 21: 5- God SAYS this: "Behold, I make all things NEW." A Restoration!
As for your idea that "the meek shall inherit the earth", even the WT claim that it's
referring to Jesus and the 144,000:
Insight on the Scriptures, Volume 1 p.1201 "The anointed members of the Christian
congregation are spoken of as having a heavenly inheritance, sharing Jesus' inheritance
as his "brothers." (Eph 1:14; Col 1:12; 1Pe 1:4, 5) This includes the earth.-Mt 5:5."
Watchtower- Jesus here applied the expression "mild-tempered" or "meek" to his disciples
of that time who were in line for the heavenly kingdom. He was the chief meek one among
them and their example. Hebrews 1:1, 2 and 2:5, 6 show that Jesus inherits the earth
or takes over the possession of it.
His disciples were made his joint heirs in the Kingdom and enter into this inheritance or
possession of the earth with him. Hence Matthew 5:5 does not STRICTLY apply to the
"other sheep.""
Watchtower- apply first of all to the pre-eminently meek One, Jesus Christ, to whom his
Father, Jehovah God, said: "Ask of me, that I may give nations as your inheritance and
the ends of the earth as your own possession." Inheriting the earth is part of his reward
for his meek and faithful course while a man.-Matt. 5:5, AS; Ps. 2:8.
Mad: For, indeed, what is mere Land to spirit beings? Do christians in Heaven inherit a second Earth with no people on it? It is Mankind that Jesus and his God love, and who the Earth was MADE for! So the Meek Servants of the ONLY true God (Christ and ALL Christians- in heaven and/or on Earth) INHERIT it! One to live on, one
to rule over- remember New Jerusalem coming down from heaven to earth in Rev?)
There are several scriptures that clearly show that heaven or "paradise" was the destination
of the faithful both in the OT and the NT:
Matthew 8:11 "But I tell YOU that many from eastern parts and western parts will come and
recline at the table with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of the heavens."
Matthew 5:11-12 "Happy are YOU when people reproach YOU and persecute YOU and lyingly
say every sort of wicked thing against YOU for my sake. Rejoice and leap for joy, since
YOUR reward is great in the heavens; for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior
to YOU.
Luke 16:22 "Now in course of time the beggar died and he was carried off by the angels to
the bosom [position] of Abraham."
Hebrews 11:13-16 "In faith all these died, although they did not get the [fulfillment of the]
promises, but they saw them afar off and welcomed them and publicly declared that they
were strangers and temporary residents in the land. For those who say such things give
evidence that they are earnestly seeking a place of their own. And yet, if they had indeed
kept remembering that [place] from which they had gone forth, they would have had
opportunity to return. But now they are reaching out for a better [place], that is, one
belonging to heaven. Hence God is not ashamed of them, to be called upon as their God,
for he has made a city ready for them."
Ephesians 4:4 "One body there is, and one spirit, even as YOU were called in the one hope
to which YOU were called"
1 Corinthians 12:13 "For truly by one spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether
Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink one spirit."
Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone saying to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter into the kingdom of the
heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will."
Matthew 19:21 "Jesus said to him: "If you want to be perfect, go sell your belongings and
give to the poor and you will have treasure in heaven, and come be my follower."
John 14:2-4"In the house of my Father there are many abodes. Otherwise, I would have told
YOU, because I am going my way to prepare a place for YOU. 3 Also, if I go my way and
prepare a place for YOU, I am coming again and will receive YOU home to myself, that
where I am YOU also may be. 4 And where I am going YOU know the way."
Luke 20:34-38 "Jesus said to them: "The children of this system of things marry and are
given in marriage, 35 but those who have been counted worthy of gaining that system of
things and the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage.
36 In fact, neither can they die anymore, for they are like the angels, and they are God's
children by being children of the resurrection. 37 But that the dead are raised up even
Moses disclosed, in the account about the thornbush, when he calls Jehovah 'the God of
Abraham and God of Isaac and God of Jacob.' 38 He is a God, not of the dead, but of the
living, for they are all living to him.""
Romans 6:3,5 "Or do YOU not know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? 5 For if we have become united with him in the likeness of his
death, we shall certainly also be [united with him in the likeness] of his resurrection."
1 Corinthians 15:42-50 'So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption,
it is raised up in incorruption. 43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised up in glory. It is
sown in weakness, it is raised up in power. 44 It is sown a physical body, it is raised up
a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one. 45 It is even
so written: "The first man Adam became a living soul." The last Adam became a life-giving
spirit. 46 Nevertheless, the first is, not that which is spiritual, but that which is physical,
afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is out of the earth and made of dust; the
second man is out of heaven. 48 As the one made of dust [is], so those made of dust [are]
also; and as the heavenly one [is], so those who are heavenly [are] also. 49 And just as we
have borne the image of the one made of dust, we shall bear also the image of the heavenly
one. 50 However, this I say, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God's kingdom,
neither does corruption inherit incorruption."
2 Corinthians 5:6-8 "We are therefore always of good courage and know that, while we have
our home in the body, we are absent from the Lord, for we are walking by faith, not by
sight. 8 But we are of good courage and are well pleased rather to become absent from
the body and to make our home with the Lord."
Mad: Rather than CnP from MY sources, the above are a wide variety of differnt things.
A symbolic Illustration (Lazarus), references to those who will rule with Christ in Heaven.
The rewards EVERY Christian stored up in heaven (Christ will remember).
The unity of Christians, regardless of Jew and gentile.
As MY brotherhood goes to the extreme in ONE direction (reading annointed/ other sheep
into everthing), you go in the OPPOSITE direction (reading heavenly resurrection into everything).
Fact is, except symbollically in Revelation, the scriptures do NOT ITEMIZE who goes where,
but presents a picture of a united, pure NEW heavens and earth- where gone are Satan, demons,
and wickedness on the Earth! Where Jehovah has elevated his only-begotten to HIS throne,
to rule in His place; for, after all, who would be better suited than one who had BEEN a...
"son of man"?
Mary: So there you have it. There is no place in the scriptures that talk about a future
"paradise earth" where human beings will live forever.
Mad: No place?
Ecc 1:4- Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains FOREVER.
Ps 2:7- I will tell of the decree: Jehovah said unto me, Thou art my son; This day have
I begotten thee.
8- Ask of me, and I will give thee the nations for thine inheritance, And the uttermost
parts of the earth (land) for thy possession.
9- Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; Thou shalt dash them in pieces like a
potter's vessel.
Ps 37:9- For evildoers will be cut off, but those who wait for Jehovah, they will inherit
the land (earth).
10-Yet a little while and the wicked man will be no more;
And you will look carefully for his place and he will not be there.
29-The righteous will inherit the land (Earth) and dwell in it forever.
[Referred to by Christ]
Isa 11: 1-9 refers to the coming of Christ as Judge of the Earth, and what will be the results.
(No vanishing)
2 Peter 3: 11- Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought
you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12- as you look forward to the day of God
and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and
the elements will melt in the heat.
13- But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a
>>> new earth <<< , where righteousness dwells.
("Melting" is an illustration often used (as today we say "that really BURNS ME UP!") to
denote God's Anger and Judgement-
Ps 46:5 God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God will help her, and that
right early. 6- The nations raged, the kingdoms were moved: He uttered his voice,
the earth melted.
Ps 97:4- His lightnings lightened the world: The earth saw, and trembled.
5- The mountains melted like wax at the presence of Jehovah, At the presence of the Lord
of the whole earth. )
Keep in mind that the Entire Book is a Symbolic Vision; a mixture of fact thru symbols.
(Rev 1:1- "signified", "presented in signs")
Rev 5:10- and madest them to be unto our God a kingdom and priests; and they reign upon
>>> earth. <<< (24 Elders NOT the 144,000!)
Rev 21:1- And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth
are passed away; and the sea is no more.
2- And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven of God, made ready
as a bride adorned for her husband.
[Mad: OUT of heaven, down to.....]
3- And I heard a great voice out of the throne saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with
men, and he shall dwell with them, and they shall be his peoples, and God himself shall be
with them, and be their God:
[Mad: With MEN, flesh and blood.]
4- and he shall wipe away every tear from their eyes; and death shall be no more; neither
shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain, any more: the first things are passed away.
[Those problems don't EXIST inHeaven!]
5- And he that sitteth on the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he saith,
Write: for these words are faithful and true.
[Mad: Again all things NEW! A Restoration.]
24- And the nations shall walk amidst the light thereof: and the kings of
>>> the earth <<< bring their glory into it.
Earth will AGAIN become a...paradise!
