The generation changed is explained in the June 15'th WT! (page 10)

Poppers - that email verges on insane. That person has really taken the Watchtower's fairly simple explanation and made it extremely complex so that they can prove to themselves the end is very close. The new teaching shows nothing of the sort.

the Organization have no where to go now they have committed themselves 100% not as some think ..they have not bought any time at all

That is nuts. The pre-1995 teaching had no where to go, about 100 years after 1914 was the absolute limit. Now it can stretch to two lots of almost 100 years (ie - a 20 year old anointed that met Barr), so well to the end of this century. Plus they have shown that they can change it at anytime and hence in another 50 years make it 3 overlapping generations.

thetrueone

Yes this new generation change has come right out of the

spin new doctrine department to suit the needs and purpose of the Publishing Corporation.

Is anyone surprised about this , I'm not ?

Religion is bullshit, therefore any religious publishing corporations are equally to be expected to be bullshit.

Lost-In-Translation

Why ... but why do they keep trying to explain this "doctrine"???

Seriously - overlapping --- OVERLAPPING?!?!?!

How can W itnesses honestly claim to fully "understand it" or that they can "appreciate the new light"?

I'm absolutely certain that educated Witnesses deep down inside are truly questioning this new "understanding." They will never voice their doubts to others, but I'm sure this crazy new explanation will be really difficult for them to swallow.

mindmelda

The fact that apparently, no one can tell exactly what the hell they're teaching now ought to tell you something.

Shit is never Shinola no matter how much you polish your shoes with it.

JeffT

I've been doing a little noodling around looking in various translations and also my Zondervan Encyclopedia of the Bible. There seems to be agreement that sometimes the word can mean something other than a single generation, when it does an alternate translation would be a word like "nation" that is detached from a time frame. Some bible scholars think this my apply to Matt 24:34. However, that doesn't help the WTBS with this goofy explanation. Nor does the fact that sometimes the word means "age" as a in "the space age." If it means a long time period it is "an age an age" which is properly translated "eternity." Nobody seems to think it means two overlapping generations of people, or if it did there would be nothing in the usage to limit it to two, which brings us back to "eternity."

I'd like to see the WTBS try to sell that one.

What I can't figure out, if how they plan to sell this to anybody not already braindead. As as been pointed out by others, the R&F have a habit of swallowing whatever is fed to them. There is no good reason to think this time will be different - something I'm sure the WTBS is counting on. But the reaction of the average householder is going to be "are you shitting me?" When I came in just prior to 1975 the version they were using at the time sort of made sense - a group of people would go from before the last days, through the last days, and be there when the Big A hit. I was astounded they made it through the 1995 version. This one makes no sense at all.

Could they be preparing for something else, and if so what?

TheOldHippie

"People of varying ages whose lives overlap during" during a special period (quoted by memory from Mary's post).

And I look out my window and wonder - my first impression when hearing that sentence is that you would have to have been born at the beginning of such a period. If I were a person stating to a crowd that this generation shall not vanish, then I 100 % could have in mind people of various ages, I could think about the children of 2 years in the crowd as well as the older ones of 80 years - but I would not have in mind those NOT THERE, those not yet having been born, those being born in 60 years from my making the statement, but whose lives would then overlap with the 2 years old in "my" crowd, who would then be 62 years old.

Tough times. Used to be people seeing the events and understanding what they meant - then these people were evil or inderrefent and were definitely non-believers - then they were moved not only into the congregation but into the Heavens - and then they are overlapping. Not easy, since all is evidently so.

Ain't easy. Is a tough road.

Mary

The ones of the remnant that SEE 1960 are the ones that have replaced those of the remnant that have fallen away and have therefor given up their position as part of the 144,000..so they too would be of a mature age but we will use 30 years as a base line ok.

Sorry.....that's not what the bible says at all:

Luke 21: 31-32 "when YOU see these things start to occur, know that the kingdom of God is near. Truly I say to YOU, This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur."

From a Witness point of view, they are still taught that "these things" (war, famine, etc.) started to occur in 1914. They have not changed that belief. Luke does not say that it would be an "over-lapping" generation, he specifically stated that it would be "this generation"----the one who saw "these things start to occur" (supposedly) in 1914, that would not "pass away".

I don't know if that wacko Witness who wrote that pile of steaming bull-crap to Poppers has any reasoning skills whatsoever, but if Poppers writes this person back, I would ask them to explain from the bible where the idea of an "over-lapping generation" is taught. Not from the Craptower, but from the bible.

That pathetic excuse of an explanation truly is one of the most lame-brain attempts at trying to prop up the "generation" doctrine, I've ever seen.

sir82

The ones of the remnant that SEE 1960 are the ones that have replaced those of the remnant that have fallen away

Ahem...

What the FFFFFFF?

Absolutely no other explanations can be made the Organizations material has made that very clear..

Care to make a wager that "absolutely no other explanations" are forthcoming?

Terry

A word that can mean anything actually means nothing.

The Watchtower Society has taken a word with an actual definition and turned it into an Anti-Concept.

(An anti-concept is an unnecessary and rationally unusable term designed to replace and obliterate some legitimate concept. The use of anti-concepts

gives the listeners a sense of approximate understanding. But in the realm of cognition, nothing is as bad as the approximate.)

This is a Red Flag that the speaker or writer is introducing confusion for the purposes of manipulation.

Our ability to UNDERSTAND is our burglar alarm which protects our rational mind. When we are deliberately confused our burglar alarm doesn't

know when to ring and we are robbed of our sense of reality.

The generation changed is explained in the June 15'th WT!

Gayle

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