What hope is there then?

by sayitsnotso 290 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • undercover
    undercover
    Read Ecclesiastes. I like the writer's take on a lot of stuff.

    I prefer the book of Duderonomy. The Dude abides.

    Duderonomy 4:1

    If you are a man of modest means and charisma and a rich, beautiful woman wants to have sex with you, don't question her motives until after the act is over.

    Duderonomy 4:2

    Avoid living in the past, even if memories can be beautiful and remind you of a time you once enjoyed.

    Duderonomy 4:5

    Take 'er easy for all the sinners of the world, dude. Abide. And amen.

  • Dagney
    Dagney

    Welcome SINS to the board.

    Boy, I've been where you are...and it was dark and scary to me, felt very hopeless.

    The reality is, when you start living for "now," today, this minute, this day...life becomes more exciting and positive. Living for a future reward becomes unsatisfactory compared with the full enjoyment and appreciation of "now." You actually become happy, with great peace of mind.

    Decide what you want your life to be, how you want to live, how you want to feel. Then work towards that everyday. It takes awhile to loosen the fetters of years and years of indoctrination. But with work, the mind frees and allows for endless possibilities.

    I wish you strength for the journey, because it is so worth it.

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    but the notion of hope for a better future in general

    Your future is whatever you make it. Not all of it is within your control. It's not an easy thing to come to grips with your mortality, yet there it is. Stuff happens. Have you ever known anyone who lived forever? How many funerals have you been to? The sun keeps rising.

    MOST people are never born in the first place, because their father's sperm didn't select their egg.

    WE ARE GOING TO DIE, yet we are the lucky ones! We were actually born.

  • goldensky
    goldensky

    Thank you, Sylvia. .

  • watson
    watson

    Another famous quote:

    "Don't worry, be happy."

    Some black singer guy.

  • snowbird
  • sayitsnotso
    sayitsnotso

    "If the dead are not to be raised up, “let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we are to die." - 1 Corithians 15:32

    Is this the advice you guys are really giving?

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    The operative word is "if."

    I believe all things prophesied in Scripture are going to happen.

    Sylvia

  • wobble
    wobble

    I label myself an atheist, I see no evidence for any gods, I also see no need for one, or more.

    Having said that, I would love to be able to believe that this short life is not all there is, it is so much fun, so many things to do, so many things I have not been able to do yet, (including ALL 72 virgins), that if someone could give me some hope, based on evidence and rationality, not a discredited "Bible" or some other religious hokum, I would grab at that hope with both hands.

    Nobody will be forthcoming I predict, with evidence that would give me hope, at least not before the demise of the WT. And that will be after my own demise.

    If there is an afterlife, I promise to somehow get on here, on JWN, after I am "dead" and tell you all about it.

    Wobble

  • undercover
    undercover

    It's not advice... it's acceptance of the cards we were dealt.

    There's no proof of anything beyond the life we have. Why waste it worrrying about what might be beyond? Why waste it trying to appease to some mythological invisible entity?

    If God was truly a god of love, don't you think he would have given us something better than an ancient book that everyone argues about? How about some direct involvement? People want to compare God to a loving father yet when a human father disappears and doesn't support his kids, he's called a deadbeat dad or worse. So how is God better than that?

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