Billy Graham says Christians Don't Actually Hear the Voice of God

by leavingwt 101 Replies latest jw friends

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  Chalam

  cyberjesus CHALAM: Billy and the GB say that you are wrong.

  Read my post again, I agreed with Billy Graham, to a point.

  I do not agree with the WT at all :)

  Believers can either (1) respect/accept some sort of authority (Vatican, WT, Billy Graham, etc) or (2) feel that's it's a personal thing, with each person knowing what it means to be a Christian and follow Jesus.

  LWT, with respect, I think it is a little unfair to put Billy Graham in the same bag as the WT, in fact, even to put the Vatican in with them ;)

  Blessings,

  Stephen
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  leavingwt

  LWT, with respect, I think it is a little unfair to put Billy Graham in the same bag as the WT, in fact, even to put the Vatican in with them ;)

  The only thing they have in common is perceived AUTHORITY. I did not comment on the quality of their ministries.
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  SweetBabyCheezits

  Shalom: I think it is a little unfair to put Billy Graham in the same bag as the WT, in fact, even to put the Vatican in with them ;)

  ohhh! wink wink nudge nudge
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  Inkie

  Fortunately for everyone, as LeavingWT said,

  “Ignorance need only be a temporary condition.”

  Everyone is ignorant about something. No one knows everything. So being called “ignorant” because one IS ignorant of something is not necessarily a denigrating term. That ignorance can be fixed. It’s just an adjective that describes something, describes a certain type of a state of being. And when people have spent years supposedly studying a certain subject, n this case—the Bible—you’d think that after years of such study that that person would pretty much know a lot about that subject. I am learning that this is NOT the case, to my surprise and perplexity. Oh well. . . .

  Certainly, you all can choose to be offended about being called “ignorant”; but, as I stated, I meant no offense by it.

  I am reminded of another biblical text that states: “The taking of offense is what rests in the heart of the stupid ones.” Or something like that. I’m just saying this is a biblical verse that I was reminded of because of what we here are discussing. I’m not calling you guys anything. But, if the shoe fits, only you would know.

  --Inkie
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  Chalam

  The only thing they have in common is perceived AUTHORITY. I did not comment on the quality of their ministries.

  The WT is a totalitarian dictatorship, I think we agree on that? I personally do not see the Vatican in the same light and neither is their message.

  Billy Graham is an evangelist and there lies his authority, preaching the gospel.

  Blessings,

  Stephen
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  PSacramento

  That reminds me, why did god give us turtlenecks if he really wanted us to wear tee shirts?

  God: You, Isrealits, shall be MY chosen people !

  Isreal: Yeah baby, we're number 1 !!! WOOWHHHOOOO !!

  God: Humity is not a bad thing you know.

  Isreal: We need soemthign to show everyone we are THE PEOPLE of God, we need something cool and meaningful.

  God: No, you don't. It's enough that I said it and that YOU know it.

  Isreal: Nah, we want soemthing to show off and tell every one that we are the best !

  God: NO, YOU DON'T !

  Isreal: Sure we do, come on YHWH, work with us, we won't let you down, give us something that we wll remember forever !

  God: For the last time, you don't need anything to show it, no sign or mark !

  Isreal: A mark, that's it, good one YHWH !! Now, what will it be?

  God: FINE !, you want a mark? something that will make everyone say, "damn !!" ?

  Isreal: YEAH !! That;s the stuff !!

  God: Cut off your foreskin !!

  Isreal: DAMN !!!
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  xchange

  Xch: Cuz Allah doesn't speak English.

  SBC: Dang. Good point.

  Okay, what if Allah's chief adversary speaks english and he's pretending to be the Judeo-Christian god to mislead people who hear his voice??? Oooh. The plot thickens.

  Heh. I was going to say that Allah might be using a Babel fish.
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  SweetBabyCheezits

  Inkie: Everyone is ignorant about something. No one knows everything. So being called “ignorant” because one IS ignorant of something is not necessarily a denigrating term. That ignorance can be fixed. It’s just an adjective that describes something, describes a certain type of a state of being. And when people have spent years supposedly studying a certain subject, n this case—the Bible—you’d think that after years of such study that that person would pretty much know a lot about that subject. I am learning that this is NOT the case, to my surprise and perplexity. Oh well. . . .

  I totally agree with you except on one part of the above statement. My remix: And when people have spent years supposedly studying a certain subject, n this case—the Bible—you’d think that after years of such study that that person would pretty much know [edit] it's bullshit [edit]. I am learning that this is NOT the case, to my surprise and perplexity. Oh well. . . .

  Nothing like a book that condones rape and the slaughtering of innocent children to put me off. I'm still purging my mind of that garbage to make room for practical knowledge. (I have a low-capacity brain.)

  I digressed. Sorry, OP.
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  leavingwt

  Inkie -- Why do you think people read the same Bible and yet reach so many different conclusions? Is it because Satan has blinded their minds?
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  Inkie

  SBC:

  When I said/wrote what I said/wrote, I wasn’t necessarily talking about believing in what was written (that’s another topic). I was talking about regardless of whether you believe what it says, youshouldafter years of studying the book, at least know what it DOES SAY. That’s what I meant.

  It astounds me that people—after years of studying this book—do not know what it does say, regardless of whether they believe it.

  That’s all I’m saying.

  --Inkie