A "Funny" Thing Happened On the Road to Damascus...

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  • miseryloveselders
    miseryloveselders

    miseryloveselders - I thought wingcommander was being mean because he admitted to not even reading Shelby's thread but attacked her and others mental state. I like a debate as much as anyone but it deeply saddens me when certain posters just come on to bully.

    Posting guidelines were also broken.

    If supporting your friends is selfrighteous then I'm guilty. This thread started off with ....For those of the Household Of God and Israel ....... so ones would know who Shelby was talking to. Maybe some are harder than I am because I don't like hurtful/hateful comments. If you don't agree then don't agree, but what's wrong in keeping things civil. I'm not the only one who feels that way either. Trouble is some do not like their bad behaviour pointed out and get quite upset about it. I will defend people I know if I feel they are being treated badly, and more so if they are being attacked for thinking and having the same beliefs I hold.

    Thankfully my husband is out of the Borg and although neither of us felt that the elders were ever knights on white horses (now that did make me smile) we always held and treated them with respect. Unfortunately on occassions they didn't always show the same respect to us. My husband read the comments made and thats why he told me to come off the computer, he really, really couldn't believe how harsh those comments were. The reason we left was because we woke up to the lies. We also came to realise that the GB were slowly smothering Christ out of the picture, something we were/are very uncomfortable with. There were other reasons why we left, mostly to do with the disfellowshipping of the bethelites from Mill Hill, but again that is another story and I have already posted on that subject elsewhere.

    Sorry for being mean to you, I should not have called you out on being an elder.

    When I put peace to you I did /do mean it. I wouldn't mess about with that at all.

    Hey NobleLodge, your alright in my book. I sincerely apologize if I came off harsh. Somedays I look at some of my own posts and threads and feel a measure of guilt. A poster came on here some months ago and questioned if it was possible to delete his history on this board, and I understand where he was coming from. I don't know if thats my upbringing tugging at my heart, or genuine feelings. I do know that I was easily offended by your post and I apologize. I was wrong. As a man I feel its a sign of weakness to show your emotions. Which is why I find WingCommander's posts humorous. He's belligerent, and rude. Downright nasty. You can't help but laugh at those individuals. Its like walking downtown and your face to face with the bag lady cussing up a storm at random passerbyers. If you allow that to get to you, than you're just as nuts as she is. Thats why I laugh at WingCommander's posts. Not that I look down on him, but F-bombs are comical. It was hilarious when Richard Pryor dropped an F-bomb and ignorant, and just as funny when WingCommander does it. I'm happy that you and your hubby are both out, and both conscious as to why. Good for you two, I'm happy for you. By the way, you didn't have to apologize to me, I'm just as screwed up as anybody else out here and full of flaws. The day I die, the world will be better off. You're alight Noble, stay who you are and don't apologize for it.

  • thenoblelodge
    thenoblelodge

    miseryloveselders - for youfor me...... cheers

  • WingCommander
    WingCommander

    Hey Misery, this one's for you buddy!!!

    FAH-Q!

    Hope I've made your day.

    - Wing Commander

  • Chalam
    Chalam

    AGuest And I have received such gift... by means of which the "new creation" that I now am... has been CONCEIVED. When I was previously conceived in SIN AND ERROR... I have NOW been conceived... in RIGHTEOUSNESS. But... I have not yet been BORN.

    And, again, I have received a TOKEN of that salvation - an anointing with holy spirit. That does not, however, conclude my birth. It simply creates the "child"... who is yet in the womb.

    Yes! A new child/creation has come into EXISTENCE... simply because he/she has been CONCEIVED. The new has come... but has not come FORTH.

    A fetus is alive, dear one... in the eyes of God. An embryo is alive... in the eyes of God. A zygote is alive... in the eyes of God. Life does not start with birth, dear one. It starts with conception. This is an interesting idea. You could start a group of "not born again Christians" with that teaching.

    Maybe not, the WT have patented that idea already :( Seriously, consider these verses

    1 Peter 1:3 (English Standard Version)

    Born Again to a Living Hope

    3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead

    1 Peter 1:23 (English Standard Version)

    23 since you have been born again, not of perishable seed but of imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God

    Note the tense in both verses, passed tense, not future.

    Either you HAVE been born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus or you are dead in your sins.

    The "imperishable seed" is the spirits of us who HAVE been born again.

    Lastly, back to this verse.

    John 3:3 (New International Version)

    3 In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again. [ a ] "

    Footnotes:

    1. John 3:3 Or born from above; also in verse 7

    No one can see the kingdom of God unless they ARE born again.

    The kingdom is within us (in our midst) who HAVE been born again Luke 17:21

    It is "at hand" (present tense) it has COME (passed tense) to us who are born again Matthew 3:2; 4:17; Luke 10:9

    Blessings in Christ,

    Stephen

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