Is "Kingdumb Hall" really an offensive term?

by cyberjesus 75 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Murray Smith
    Murray Smith

    I have been called names using JW 'feeling of superiority swear words' = 'spiritually weak', 'apostate', 'immature', 'worldly' and so on.

    I found a number . . . no, . . . all of the above terms offensive to at least some degree even when I was "in"

    My feeling now is that if ever compared to JW's per se . . . one would be best viewed as being as "different" from them as possible . . . the exact opposite even . . . so apart from the odd occasion when I simply can't help myself (nobody's perfect eh?) . . . I try not to be insulting . . . simply because I DO NOT WANT TO BE LIKE THEM as much as possible

  • Nickolas
    Nickolas

    My Mom is intelligent...but she is a JW, therefore she is not that intelligent.... Can you REASON with them? Can they TEST their knowldege? Can they hear condratictory staments? Can they have an honest debate open to the idea of being wrong? Can they admin they dont have ceirtainty? So where exactly is the intelligence?

    You are confusing credulity with intellect, cyberjesus. Atheism is not a new concept, although it has been bolstered considerably by men like Einstein and Darwin. However, arguably the most intelligent individual to have lived, Sir Isaac Newton, was also a theist when many of his contemporaries were not, although few would admit it at the time. Newton also had an irrational belief in alchemy which most of his contemporaries judged laughable, but the mathematics and physics he figured out contributed more to the evolution of human intelligence than anything else to date. Anything else. If you really want to understand how an intelligent person comes to believe what is not rational, you're going to need to find a different way.

  • dgp
    dgp

    In this forum I describe myself with the word the witnesses would reserve for me: worldly. I know it's meant to be offensive, but I don't care. I use it for the value it has in "Dubbish", as YKnot called it. Either you who are out, or those lurking, or those in, already know who I am, and I trust that most of the people reading this will understand that, while I am far from perfect, I don't exactly fit the description "worldly" is supposed to convey.

    I do see the point that some people try to make. It's perhaps more important to help other exit that to use terms such as the one used to start this thread. But I don't think that is all that matters. What about those who feel that they were duped? Do they have a right to use words to speak their mind?

    I don't know about others, but for as long as the Society thinks it's OK to use "worldly" to describe billions of people of different morals, I think they have lost their right to demand that others do not call them names. For as long as they think they can call the Catholic Church "the Harlot", which is a term most of my relatives would find extremely offensive, I think I can use "Kingdumb Hell" for the place they use for their meetings. I was born long after they started using "worldly" to describe me, and in their minds I deserved that word when I was, say, two days old.

    By the way, my sister told me "Your breath stinks", I could took that to be fair warning if I were going to an elegant meeting with such a foul breath.

  • doofdaddy
    doofdaddy

    Is "Kingdumb Hall" really an offensive term?

    No more offensive than calling the catholic church a drunken harlot having sex with any and all nations. Or apostates being dogs eating their own vomit....

  • Nickolas
    Nickolas

    "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

    Mahatma Ghandi.

  • doofdaddy
    doofdaddy

    Have you quoted Ghandi to your wife Nickolas?

  • Nickolas
    Nickolas

    Your nick is well chosen, doofdaddy.

  • doofdaddy
    doofdaddy

    You have no idea...

  • finallyfree!
    finallyfree!

    fwhy do we have to put on our little white gloves to talk to jw's or about them?? like it was said...i find it offensive when jw's refer to us normal peeps as worldly. so fuckem!! if they can give it, then they should be able to take it!

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    "Kingdumb Hell" is about as "offensive" as some of the terms the witlesses use to describe worldly people. They describe worldly people with terms like "filth", "urine", "poison", "swine", and "dogs"--all of which I have heard them use from the platform. Some have described worldly people as bird food, and they have berated the Catholic church with terms like "cat lick" (which I heard a witless use while out in field circus). And the college degree D.E.A.D.

    I, for one, do not find any accurate description of the religion, the people, or the functions therein to be offensive. And most of the terms I use are much more accurate than the ones that they actually use within the religion. Which is more than I can say about the terms the witlesses use to describe worldly people.

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