The Watchtower, a cult that worships the FDS and GB!

by VM44 55 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • satinka
    satinka

    Jonathan dough wrote:

    The Jehovahs Witnesses can run from their occult past, but they can't hide. Nor can they sweep these truths under the rug of their New Light Doctrine. Due to such an un-biblical foundation that continued well into the 1920s, it is inconceivable that Jesus Christ chose the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society as their sole representatives on earth due to the purity of their faith.

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    Well said! Very insightful!

    On another note, are the jws on this forum counting time with us "Apostates TM "? I wonder if the BOE know where the service time is coming from.

    satinka

  • andrekish
    andrekish

    All Bibles that I have seen from ALL denominations contain the following concept, although individual wording may vary: Jesus said 'no-one comes to the Father except through me.' He also said 'Our Father, in the heavens, hallowed be THY name.' At no point here was Christ saying everyone come to Him, or everyone worship HIS name. Jesus said everyone should come to the FATHER and should worship HIS FATHER's name. Christ also said: 'Not my will, but THY will be done.'

    In fairness to Jehovah's Witnesses, whether you love them or hate them, they do appear to agree with this idea at least.

    And in fairness to ALL those pointing out the changes that have occurred in Jehovah's Witness 'Dogma' you are absolutely correct.

    Are we all making it up as we go along?

  • VM44
    VM44

    Published in The Watchtower, 12/15/71, 9. 749

    http://www.witnessinc.com/authority.html

  • poopsiecakes
    poopsiecakes

    Holy crap VM44!! Is that for real??

  • VM44
    VM44

    Yes it is real.

    The chart actually appeared in the Watchtower magazine!

  • kjw53
    kjw53

    Ding-- I have no doubt whatsoever-I thought this was a sight for the JW,s=hence the name. I am not baptized-but the fds dont tell anyone to stay off internet sights-they suggest not to be on sights, but its for the weak ones who could be swayed.

  • jeckle
    jeckle

    kjw53 ok so which side of the fence do you want. please do some unbias research save yourself our pain.

  • WontLeave
    WontLeave

    I am not baptized-but the fds dont tell anyone to stay off internet sights-they suggest not to be on sights, but its for the weak ones who could be swayed.(sic)

    @kjw53 That explains a lot. You're still new. You're dumbfounded at all the wondrous new things you're being shown by the Society. You're in awe at the wisdom of the "faithful and discreet slave" as obviously the sole mouthpiece of God, since you've never heard any of this before.

    Actually, it was all right there in the Bible long before the Watchtower came along. If you'd have just read it, people understood what God was saying before churches started confusing people. But, people would rather let their church tell them what the Bible says than read it for themselves. Granted, for quite a bit of human history, reading the Bible for yourself wasn't much of an option. But for the last few hundred years, that hasn't been a viable excuse. Still, rather than be bothered with reading a big, boring book like the Bible, most just let the preacher do our homework for us and rely on his Cliff's Notes version.

    So, like a 9-year-old girl in the presence of Justin Bieber, you're star-struck. Is this the correct attitude to have? It's obvious you're basically saying "I belong to the 'faithful slave'."

    For when one says: “I belong to Paul,” but another says: “I to A·pol′los,” are YOU not simply men? What, then, is A·pol′los? Yes, what is Paul? Ministers through whom YOU became believers, even as the Lord granted each one. I planted, A·pol′los watered, but God kept making [it] grow; so that neither is he that plants anything nor is he that waters, but God who makes [it] grow. Now he that plants and he that waters are one, but each [person] will receive his own reward according to his own labor. For we are God’s fellow workers. YOU people are God’s field under cultivation, God’s building. - 1Cor 3:4-9

    So, Paul, an apostle of Christ, both appointed and inspired by Holy Spirit, spread the Word while taking no credit for himself. He realized it was not his message he was sharing. He was blessed by God with the opportunity to share in such a holy work. He didn't get a swelled head and think more of himself than necessary. Never once did he attempt to leverage the appreciation of those he taught into self-glorification. No; in fact, Paul was self-deprecating, if anything. He often spoke of his human frailties and what a 'miserable man' he was without God and Christ to save him.

    As Peter entered, Cornelius met him, fell down at his feet and did obeisance to him. But Peter lifted him up, saying: “Rise; I myself am also a man.” - Rom 10:25-26

    Is this the sort of thing we hear from the Governing Body? No! We hear how we need to obey and submit to them, because Jesus left them in charge. Rather than sounding like mature, spiritual, humble men, they sound like a tween-age girl left to babysit her younger siblings while mom goes to a dentist appointment. How should a messenger of God act?

    At that I fell down before his feet to worship him. But he tells me: “Be careful! Do not do that! All I am is a fellow slave of you and of your brothers who have the work of witnessing to Jesus. Worship God; for the bearing witness to Jesus is what inspires prophesying.” - Rev 19:10

    We have the Governing Body of the Watchtower corporation telling us - in no uncertain terms - how they're the boss of us. They use vague references to pieces of Bible verses which then require entire magazine articles to extrapolate into this hierarchy. Meanwhile, they totally ignore mountains of very clear scriptures which plainly forbid this sort of human leadership and lust for power among Christians. Neither apostles nor angles would dare to accept - much lest demand, like a 4-year old throwing a tantrum in a supermarket - this sort of worshipful adoration as some sort of proxy-Christ.

  • kjw53
    kjw53

    Wontleave-- I am not new, i am not baptized- i cannot say half the things i do if i were baptized- The baptized ones teach the good news of Gods kingdom- Which is great news for obedient mankind. For the others not so great- I am exposing satan to all who read. There are many who refuse to listen to the good news. I am trying to help them. I think the apostles would have been telling the followers that they too needed to listen to them so as not to get confused by other thoughts that satan infiltrates. It started as soon as Jesus was dead-the super apostles were teaching lies and Peter had to correct them. otherwise the lies would have remained as truth. Satan owns every false religion on the planet-he infiltrated lies into them centuries ago, never corrected. satan is posing as God in those religions-the only religion he needs to attack is the one that has the real Jesus, and he does infiltrate-so corrections must be made. Find the religion that makes corrections in front of the hearts of the ridiculers and that religion will prove to have Jesus in the end.

  • kjw53
    kjw53

    Andrekish--- does one think back after Jesus died that the domestics didnt need to learn from the apostles? so then the pic would look the same

    God

    Jesus

    Apostles ( faithful slave )

    Domestics.

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