Was Jesus a Mighty God In Human Form That Suffered Hematidrosis?

by sabastious 59 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  PSacramento

  You guys are trying to get inside the mind of Jesus and I don't see how you can.

  Whether real or ficticious, its a unique story.

  Never had God become Man and gone through the full lexperience of being fully human, much less die in that form and feel all the pain and aguish.

  We have no idea how Jesus felt or how he viewed it, none.

  We know that he felt pain, tremendous pain, and we know that at one point he felt abandonded, we know that he forgave those that tortured him and we know that after his bodily resurection, He kept the marks.

  Beyond that...

  As for knowing that His suffering was only temporary and knowing that He would be ressurected, I don't think that would have made the pain any less or the death any less "deader".
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  Satanus

  You obviously need your bubbles, so, i will stop trying to burst them.

  S
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  designs

  Did the human part of Jesus bleed through the God part or with Kenosis can God bleed.
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  Mad Sweeney

  I've never heard any convincing evidence he actually existed.

  I feel like the gospels were written soon enough after he supposedly died that they were all about the same specific somebody who really did live. That said, EVERYthing written in them, both the official canon and the apocrypha, needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt.

  Can you quote any speech word for word that you heard once three decades ago, had no way of recording, with no way to confirm your memory with the speaker because he's dead?

  Me neither.

  At best you remember snippets and the general gist and you fill in the gaps YOURSELF in order to MAKE UP the rest.

  THAT is the Jesus we read about. The human memories of a small handful of individuals about a man long dead, mostly fabricated in order to fill in gaps, written, copied, copied by others with an agenda, copied again and again by people with and without agendas, then translated by people who may or may not have had personal agendas.

  Take THAT as literal truth?

  Please.

  There is good and practical stuff there but if the quotes attributed to Jesus Christ are even moderately accurate then the very people writing about him didn't even understand him, by their own admission, and they formed a religion UNlike what he was trying to do and teach.

  And along came Paul, and we don't EVEN want to go there!
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  sabastious

  He knew what was coing, He knew what it meant and He Knew how it was going to feel and He knew He was going to feel it, ALL of it.

  PSac he also knew what was going to ultimately come from it: eternal peace and happiness.

  -Sab
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  rebel8

  For those who think the New Testament mentions of Jesus were written by people who personally knew Jesus...do you also believe in the other Christian oral history, such as the stuff about the saints?

  In fact the saints mostly lived a lot more recently than Jesus, so the stories should be more accurate.

  What about the reliquaries?
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  thetrueone

  Mystical ancient stories can certainly be dumbfounding cant they.

  Another dumbfounding story of the many could be Noah's flood, why would god do something like that

  when it did nothing to improve human social behavior ?

  I guess god didn't know that it wouldn't change anything for mankind.
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  rebel8

  Well, try, try again then! He's gonna wipe us all out, even though the last time he allegedly did that, it failed.
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  Satanus

  The asteroid, a few million yrs ago wiped out the dinos. That's when mammals got their chance. They survived, cuz some of them were a couple of feet underground, in their burros, when the searing heat flash that the asteroid generated passed. Wonder what the dinos did or didn't do that made the biblegod wipe them out.

  S
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  tec

  Obviously, since he was getting everything back, he knew that his suffering was temporary. If you knew that if you went through the same thing as jesus did, that you could live as long as you wanted afterward, have all the money or whatever you wanted afterward, would you do it?

  Would that make the pain and the torture better? Put yourself in his shoes. You're going to get all of this after... but RIGHT NOW... you're going to be mocked, spit upon, whipped, beaten, and crucified. You might be sweating blood too. (although I actually agree with what you said earlier... his sweat was LIKE blood falling to the ground)

  Tammy