by sd-7 132 Replies latest members adult
I will become an elder again if they dedicate at least 20 pages of real life descriptions on the usage of sex toys into the Elders Manual!
Really. And I will read that stuff aloud during the judicial committee, even if the person is sitting there for picking his nose!
PS: Sounded creepy? Well, thats how some elders tick if they go to such JC Monkey shows to ruin other peoples lifes and rob them of
their dignity....I am ashamed of every single minute I've spent on such "duties"....
Why does anyone try to engage in dialogue with djeggnogg?
What's the point? Why not just ignore the troll?
What's the point? Why not just ignore the troll?
There is still value in the dialog. Spade's thread on 607BCE ended up containing a wealth of information.
eggnoggin said:
Jehovah's Witnesses are a body of Christians
Actually, Jehovah's Witnesses are 2 classes: one teeny tiny body of christians, and one much larger group of 'friends' of christians.
If you don't take sacraments, ie, the emblems, you are not in the body of christ, and ergo NOT christian.
One of these days I swear I'm going to do a compilation of Eggnogg's post, and entitle it the PAssion of Eggnogg. Within this thread, he dropped a couple gems from his heart. Check these out.
I disagree; many Jehovah's Witnesses are stupid people, in the sense that many of them are not worldly-wise. For example, it is not unknown that many Jehovah's Witnesses back in the 70s had "decided," at the behest of elders, who had no right to be deciding for folks, that they should forego the taking of additional courses at a two-year or four-year college, which decisions deprived many of the opportunity to provide the kind of financial security for their families that would have made them eligible to take better paying jobs.
I hate to say it Egg, but the clarification of them not being wordly-wise didn't soften the impact of your slur towards Jehovah's Witnesses, namely many of them being stupid. You want to accuse SD-7 of slurring JWs, well two can play that game bruh. I can see it now as you're walking through the cafeteria during the break at the convention, and your fellow brothers and sisters will say amongst themselves,"thats the brother who thinks we're all stupid and beneath him." If that were to ever happen, would you have freeness to speak from the platform, or conduct WT or CBS articles, especially on matters such as having humility, and genuine love towards your fellow brothers and sisters? Outwardly do you agree with the lack of class distinctions in the Christian congregation, only to anonymously post your true feelings about your fellow brothers and sisters as being stupid, on a message board full of posters who are apostate? Within the majority of your posts, would you say that the fruitage of the spirit is manifest in your posts?
Not everyone have the kind of circumstances that will permit them to enter the full time work as pioneers; some of our youths want to be doctors, lawyers, accountants, bankers, electricians, engineers, architects and computer analysts which require an investment of two, four, six even eight years of study in order to obtain the necessary credentials that enable one to work in their field of study. As a result of decisions that were made a long time ago, the children of that generation of the 70s that were lacking in discernment are not repeating the mistakes of their parents and are 'calculating the expense' (Luke 14:28) before jumping into the full time work.
Are you being facetious DJ? LOL, Seriously bruh? JW youth are going to college before jumping in the full time work? I'm starting to question whether or not you really are a Jehovah's Witness, because from what I'm seeing on a local level, JW youth are going to college and guess what they jump into from there? Matter fact, allow me to rephrase that......where do you think they jump from there? As far away as possible from this religion. In case you haven't noticed it, we're losing our young people. The only mistake they saw their parents make, was watching mom and dad spend multiple decades awaiting this system of things to end because some overzealous brother at best, or fraudster at worst, told them the end was right around the corner. Now their adult children have children in high school. How long until they're great grandparents? When the Wild Beast turns on The Harlot? DJ, keep on the watch, but don't hold your breath while you're on the lookout. Otherwise you may end up on a message board overwhelmed by apostates.....oh thats right......you already are.
Matter fact, one of the definitions of apostate is to stand away. By your actions on this message board, commenting and associating with the disfellowshipped, the disassociated, and other individuals who by JW standards are bad association, you're standing away from the directives of the faithful and discreet slave. Whether you like it or not, you're an apostate in denial. The same way James stated that desire becomes pregnant, and eventually gives birth to sin, which gives birth to death, you've already taken the first step by being here.
But this next bit by Bro.Eggnogg, is by far to me the most telling. I know you view this as an indictment of SD-7, and you wish to accuse him of slurring the writers of the WT and the JWs who read it. Lets look at it from the another angle though. Is it possible that the writers at the WT have become so lazy, or maybe incapable of adjusting their format, that the literature has become overly repetative and stale, to the point of invoking humor? We already know the literature lacks the zing to dispel the apathy of the general public, and considering the constant reminders to keep up with Jehovah's organization, tells me that more than a few JWs are apathetic when it comes to the literature as well. But lets let you tell it DJ.......
There are hundreds of Christian denominations so your point about the ease with which the Scriptures can be manipulated was an unnecessary point to be made to a mature Christian; we know this already. We are qualified to teach others what the Bible says and are able to prove, using the Bible, what the Bible teaches and what it doesn't teach. What your parody proves is that you can write a piece in the style of one of the QfR's that appear in the Watchtower, and it's clear to me that this slur against Jehovah's Witnesses was written because you imagine "something either risqué or maybe sinister about sexual relations between a husband and his wife.
Now despite the fact that this parody of yours was "well-written and could fool the [not-as-studious-as-the-rest] Witness into believing it to be a real article published by the WTS, I also told you because I am "pretty sure that others could be persuaded to believe that we had published this QfR parody," that "you might have opened yourself up to a lawsuit" in the future. Anyone that would do what you did here to the extent that you had gone just to make a joke demonstrates your ability to deceive others by producing a "counterfeit" in the style of one of our QfR articles, and the problem you would have in explaining what you did here on JWN is in showing, to the satisfaction of a jury, how your Post 1492 would have been construed as a parody by the reader of it. Your post began with the question:
I don't need to defend SD, as he can defend himself, but you've just slandered him by insinuating that his ability to mimic the writing style and format of the WT is only lacking the oppurtunity to fraudulently publish such a piece? I would say Eggnogg, that SD-7 is good, very good, but he has no intentions on decieving others. Rather he's actually doing the WT Writing Department a huge favor. What his parody articles do not only provide us with humor, which eases the difficulty of being a Jehovah's Witness in the first place, but it also screams at the Writing Department and Bro.Splane, TO STEP UP THEIR WRITING AND RESEARCH GAME!! If you're on the Writing Department Egg, please, please tell them to stop regurgitating the same information over and over again, stop using the same illustrations over and over again, research outside sources before making fools of yourselves in matters involving archeology and science. If the WT did that, SD-7 would lose the motivation and source material that is at the center of his ability to parody the WT.
By the way, i was out in field service today and I placed a magazine, and you know what? I think they may actually read it.
No Room for George! Very well written and answered. Like it.
By the way, today I placed 2 magazines.............in my fireplace, to have at least a warm living room. Weather is cold again, and the magazines & books need to be used in practical ways
What about the blowup doll that Brother Lösch asked me to get him for Christmas last year? Is that considered a sex toy? Please let me know asap as I don't want to un-happify the rest of the faithful and dis-greed slave class. For more clarfication, this is what he asked me to order. When I asked him why he wanted it, he mumbled something about trying it out on a Bethelite named Johnny:
@djeggnog wrote:
I disagree; many Jehovah's Witnesses are stupid people, in the sense that many of them are not worldly-wise.
@No Room For George:
I hate to say it Egg, but the clarification of them not being wordly-wise didn't soften the impact of your slur towards Jehovah's Witnesses, namely many of them being stupid. You want to accuse SD-7 of slurring JWs, well two can play that game bruh. I can see it now as you're walking through the cafeteria during the break at the convention, and your fellow brothers and sisters will say amongst themselves,"thats the brother who thinks we're all stupid and beneath him." If that were to ever happen, would you have freeness to speak from the platform, or conduct WT or CBS articles, especially on matters such as having humility, and genuine love towards your fellow brothers and sisters? Outwardly do you agree with the lack of class distinctions in the Christian congregation, only to anonymously post your true feelings about your fellow brothers and sisters as being stupid, on a message board full of posters who are apostate? Within the majority of your posts, would you say that the fruitage of the spirit is manifest in your posts?
JWN is not a district convention, not a circuit convention, not even a Kingdom Hall. It's a website that hosts a board that caters to discussing things related to Jehovah's Witnesses. If you think JWN to be more than this, you are free to believe whatever it you wish to believe. And so am I. This means essentially that there are things that I will say here on JWN with frankness that I will not say elsewhere with the same frankness, just as one wouldn't practice playing on their trumpet at home at 2:00 a.m. when they know it would be inappropriate for them to do so at 2:00 a.m. But any trumpet blasts coming from the vicinity of their home after 10:00 a.m. would be regarded quite differently. <g>
I think the word "stupid" to be an appropriate one, for even if you might prefer that I avoid the use of certain words in the US English lexicon, I'm not going to concern myself with what your preference might be since all I was communicating with the use of this word -- "stupid" -- is the same thing that I would have communicated had I used "ignorant," which is just one synonym for this same word.
It occurs to me that another suitable synonym would be "foolish," and if, really, what you telling me here is that you were among those that "decided," during the 70s, at the behest of elders to forego the taking of additional college courses so that you might be in a better position to obtain a better paying job that would enable you to provide financial security for your family, then you made a stupid decision. Feel free though to substitute one of these other words in place of what it was I actually wrote should you find this word, though apropos, to be offensive.
@djeggnog wrote:
Not everyone [will] have the kind of circumstances that will permit them to enter the full time work as pioneers; some of our youths want to be doctors, lawyers, accountants, bankers, electricians, engineers, architects and computer analysts which require an investment of two, four, six even eight years of study in order to obtain the necessary credentials that enable one to work in their field of study. As a result of decisions that were made a long time ago, the children of that generation of the 70s that were lacking in discernment are not repeating the mistakes of their parents and are 'calculating the expense' (Luke 14:28) before jumping into the full time work.
@No Room For George:
Are you being facetious DJ? LOL, Seriously bruh? JW youth are going to college before jumping in the full time work? I'm starting to question whether or not you really are a Jehovah's Witness, because from what I'm seeing on a local level, JW youth are going to college and guess what they jump into from there? Matter fact, allow me to rephrase that......where do you think they jump from there? As far away as possible from this religion. In case you haven't noticed it, we're losing our young people.
Your observations aside, there were only eight (8) people that survived the global deluge: Not 100,000, not 50, not 10, only 8. As of 2010, there were reportedly 7,313,173 publishers, but if these "other sheep" are not working out their own salvation, then they might not be numbered among the "great crowd" of worshippers the apostle John envisioned that were serving God day and night in his spiritual temple, since to get a "white robe," one must be baptized to be saved.
This is not to say, of course, that these publishers are 'blessing themselves' by means of the things that Christ taught, but if only 3 million of these should survive Armageddon -- or only 2 million, 500,000 -- then these 500,000 will become the nucleus of the new earth of righteousness that all Christians have awaited according to God's promise, which is so much more than the total number of folks that survived the destruction of Noah's ancient world. My hope is that this number will increase to 20 million, 40 million or more, depending upon what our youth decide to do when they have completed college, but we'll just have to wait and see.
DJ, keep on the watch, but don't hold your breath while you're on the lookout. Otherwise you may end up on a message board overwhelmed by apostates.....oh thats right......you already are.
I really don't mind. My hope is that many of you will make your minds over -- re-make your mind actually -- before it's too late to do so. Maybe you are one of those that think that God will group all infants and young children, including teenagers, as well as all adults that we don't get to speak or convince regarding the good news together, and after surviving Armageddon, they will be given an opportunity to exercise faith in Christ Jesus, but Ezekiel 9:4-6 informs us that Jesus and his executional forces will be commanded by God to "strike ... do not feel any compassion. Old man, young man and virgin and little child and women you should kill off-to a ruination."
While the faith of a believing parent may play a part in the survival of some of our young people that are not yet baptized (1 Corinthians 7:14), there is nothing that will stay God's hand in avenging the blood of those that had died from as long ago as Abel, for his blood, which represents life, is sacred to our God and Abel has yet to be avenged. (Genesis 9:5, 6; Matthew 23:34, 35) But Abel's blood will be avenged at Armageddon and anyone whose conscience has not been cleansed of bloodguilt will perish. (1 Peter 3:20, 21)
Although you may be at this moment someone that had formerly been one of Jehovah's Witnesses, most active Witnesses today do not understand any of what I just said to you in the preceding two paragraphs, and this is made more clear to me when some of our young people come here to JWN after having decided to leave our ranks, seeking advice on how they might fade and pursue "uncertain riches" in this world, despite the fact that this life isn't at all "the real life." (1 Timothy 6:17-19)
Matter [of] fact, one of the definitions of apostate is to stand away. By your actions on this message board, commenting and associating with the disfellowshipped, the disassociated, and other individuals who by JW standards are bad association, you're standing away from the directives of the faithful and discreet slave. Whether you like it or not, you're an apostate in denial.
I suspect that I might well be bad association for you if it was your goal to avoid Jehovah's Witnesses since I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and I am publishing to you now some of the things that you found unbearable to hear when you were actively such. Whether you like it or not, it's likely that you will be one of those that will perish at Armageddon if you do not "stop being unbelieving but become believing." (John 20:27)
@djeggnog wrote:
Anyone that would do what you did here to the extent that you had gone just to make a joke demonstrates your ability to deceive others by producing a "counterfeit" in the style of one of our QfR articles, and the problem you would have in explaining what you did here on JWN is in showing, to the satisfaction of a jury, how your Post 1492 would have been construed as a parody by the reader of it.
@No Room For George:
I don't need to defend SD, as he can defend himself, but you've just slandered him by insinuating that his ability to mimic the writing style and format of the WT is only lacking the [opportunity] to fraudulently publish such a piece?
You may defend @sd-7 if you wish, but truth is a complete defense to slander. Also, as he will also incur attorneys' fees should a lawsuit be filed against him, he's going to need money from his friends here on JWN and I trust that for all of the humor you and others were provided by his parodies, you will be willing to write a check in demonstration of your loyalty to this most worthy cause.
Hopefully in that case there's enough equity on his home so that he can take out a second on it, but if he should have no home, he'll probably need you and three others to kick in $15K each to cover $60K in fees just for the first month (actually, four weeks @37.5 hours/ week @$400/hour). It can cost a small fortune to take on God's organization, but, as you may know, we already have a legal department in Brooklyn, but I suppose that you and @sd-7 are good friends so that you won't mind helping to fund his legal defense, right? He mentioned in one of his posts that he knows "a bit about the law," so I'm sure he knows attorneys' fees can be rather daunting.
By the way, i was out in field service today and I placed a magazine, and you know what? I think they may actually read it.
You do recall, don't you, that Balaam was unable to curse God's people? Even though your heart may not have been in it, placing a magazine into someone's hands today could well lead to the salvation of someone that was actually looking for it. Thanks for sharing this with me, @No Room For George.
@djeggnog
(djeggnog, please acknowledge you received my PM. Thanks)
LOLOL @ djintrepidnog
geez you cant make this shit up lol ... *cryin over here after reading his last post LOLOLOLOL
