The Watchtower, Adult Study Edition, Volume 2, Article 1: Questions From Readers

by sd-7 132 Replies latest members adult

  • beenthere26yr
    beenthere26yr

    My posts were blank earlier so here goes again.

    This is all so typical JW. It's like going to the big tent at the circus and seeing the same animals parade past again and again doing the same sturn over and over. Amusing how everyone inside seems oblivious to a world full of the same animals outside. Big difference is that the ones outside are in their natural surrounding and not trained and hoodwinked.

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    Why would you be interested in my motives for posting messages to JWN? What could you possibly do with my providing you an answer to the reason I do anything that I choose to do? You believe JWN to be an "apostate web site," do you? Have you read any of my posts, and I mean any of them? Did you ever notice when reading any one of them something that struck you as indicating that I am not actively one of Jehovah's Witnesses? From reading my posts -- any of them -- did I struck you as someone that would so thin-skinned and spiritually immature as to be repelled from the things that many apostates that do post to JWN might say as might well be the response of someone having less experience being one of Jehovah's Witnesses?

    That sure sounds like "going ahead" to me, but who am I? Just an evil apostate.

    -Sab

  • Igot2bme
    Igot2bme

    OMG!!!LOL!!!That is the funniest sh*t ever! I have to admit at first I thought it was really a new article! I started reading it and was like WTF!!! I also had to admit I was very pissed off too! I wouldn't put it passed the org to put out a similar article. They take the fun out of everything else why not this too!

  • djeggnog
    djeggnog

    @djeggnog wrote:

    Are you serious? There is nothing in this fake QfR article you authored to suggest that it is a parody, which is not the kind of information that a good parody would contain, and I having to give it to you: This article you wrote was well-written and could fool the not-as-studious as the rest Witness into believing it to be a real article published by the WTS, and, like I said above, nothing prevents what you wrote from appearing without the "headnote" in some other form. Give yourself credit; it's good, but you might have opened yourself up to a lawsuit. We'll see what happens.

    @lovelylil wrote:

    Exactly WHO is it that is going to go to an apostate website like this one and print out sd-7's parody mistaking it for the real WT study for the week?

    Maybe you should have tried to use your imagination a bit before mindlessly asking me such a question: The "haters" here on JWN for whom printing @sd-7's post (without the headnotes) and distributing the resultant printouts to unsuspecting Witnesses wherever they think they can find them (which happens a lot here in Los Angeles with "flyers" tucked behind windshield wipers of the cars parked in Kingdom Hall parking lots, for example). Although @steve2 thinks me to be "naive," I know what "you guys" do and will do because most of your are driven by your hatred and intolerance for Jehovah's Witnesses, even though you were once, many of you, numbered among us.

    @Joey Jo-Jo:

    1- [you're] on an "apostate" web site 2 - [You're] aware that you are on an "apostate" web site 3 - You have been a long term user of this message board 4 -other times you go beyond what the WB&TS teaches and finally 5- Its very clear when reading all your posts that you can not come up with an answer, so we throw all this evidence and you just sound like a broken record.

    This is a website that is frequented by many former Jehovah's Witnesses that now call themselves apostates, who have the viewpoint that being an apostate is a badge or honor, but since I continue to actively be one of the Jehovah's Witnesses, then it would appear that what we have here is a website that is frequently visited by former Jehovah's Witnesses that are no longer Jehovah's Witnesses and at least one active Jehovah's Witness, although there are more than just one active Jehovah's Witness that frequents JWN, some of whom will post messages to a thread every now and again, and some that never post messages here, but lurk the active threads here.

    I do not keep track of the number of former Jehovah's Witnesses and active Jehovah's Witnesses that visit JWN, nor am I interesting in compiling statistics that @Simon is in a much better position to access and record if it were at all necessary to his running this website, but I do know that there are folks that visit JWN and even post messages here (like @TD) that have never been baptized, never been one of Jehovah's Witnesses, so, statistically speaking, I am of the opinion that while you have the right to disagree with me, I would submit that JWN is not an apostate website since as long as @Simon permits me to post messages here, JWN will never be an apostate website.

    Now while you are certainly entitled to your opinion, entitled to believe whatever it is you choose to believe, if you have it in you, I would be willing to hear you prove otherwise, if you can. If you do not have it in you to prove your contention, that's fine, because I knew when I was writing this post that you would flake, and that you weren't the kind of person that possessed the kind of backbone that, when challenged, could get you to do more than blow smoke than back up your words here with proof. Among yourselves, you are here giving glory to one another for your wittiness and clever tactical maneuvers as your cowardice makes you hide what you truly are as you deceive those with whom you regularly attend meetings into believing you are one of Jehovah's Witnesses, and yet some of you here that pretentiously attend meetings at your local congregation dare to bash me for frequenting a website that you believe to be apostate in nature.

    All of this hypocrisy on the part of some sounds rather, er, hypocritical to me for you would condemn me for posting messages to JWN while at the same time giving a pass to the pretenders because they happen to have been willing to confess their duplicity here on JWN?? This suggest that JWN is like a confessional where duplicitous Jehovah's Witnesses come to receive absolution, but this cannot be true, is it?

    To you, @Joey Jo-Jo, JWN is an apostate website, but to me, JWN is a place where I get to speak, both candidly and honestly, to lurkers of JWN while responding to some of the notions that many members of JWN assert and believe to be true, like that thread when @moshe argued, and without success I might add, that Jehovah's Witnesses celebrated the Memorial of Christ's death did so on the wrong day this year and @WontLeave argued, again without success, that Jesus died, not on Nisan 14, but on Nisan 15, which is the day after the passover, which day she argued to not only have been when the passover seder was eaten, but also the day when the sons of Israel left Egypt. I'm sure the lurkers enjoyed it when I overturned their erroneous arguments. Studying our literature is a good thing, but the failure to study the Bible is what makes one a cripple, for without a knowledge of the Bible, most of you have a severe handicap in knowing what you read in a particular magazine article or book on a particular matter while hardly knowing what the Bible itself teaches regarding that matter. I enjoy using the threads started here on JWN to magnify the name of the true God, Jehovah, which is fitting since the name of this website is Jehovahs-Witness.net, is it not? BTW, this thread, I believe, is about @sd-7's fake QfR article, which he calls "a parody."

    BTW, while I found your post to be interesting (meaning only that it caught my interest), I found it also to be boring, and in posting what you did to this thread, you and @lovelylil and @pirata were all off-topic. If you had nothing to contribute to this thread, like maybe an "attaboy" to the OP about his wonderful writing skills that even fooled a few folks like @cheerios and @nugget and now @Igot2me before they realized your post was just a joke, then why hijack someone else's thread just to tell me something that you believe must be understood according to your own understanding when I reject any opinion that I don't personally solicit, and especially the stupid ones?

    @djeggnog

  • sizemik
    sizemik

    Dear Brothers,

    Thank you for the timely counsel. Please be assured my wife and I have sincerely repented of our sinful course and now content ourselves only with the bed.

    We have duly destroyed our toys. After the fire brigade put the first bon-fire out, we simply waited until they left and lit it again. They are just agents of Satan's world. It should be fully burned down sometime tomorrow. We do however have one made from stainless steel which refuses to burn. What should we do? We hesitate to put it out in the trash as we don't want to stumble the trash collector or bring reproach on this God-ordained organisation.

    PS; @DJ . . . you surely must have posted with some trepidation on this thread . . . you should have listened to your instincts . . . you are looking somewhat foolish

  • the max
    the max

    Yes Eggy, Simon indeed permits you, infact 99% of us permit you, Isnt it ironic that WE are an open community,divergent in views, we have freedom of thought freedom of expression,GOD given freedoms, that your cult would seek to deny us.

    Your cult got your dates wrong with 607 BCE, THE correct year was 587, so any purile claims that YOU LOT were chosen circa 1919, is false. A fact,

    that I am diseminating far and wide with many active witnesses, who will in turn do likewise.

    I notice you have not attempted to answer my question regarding the increasing number of young, and old for that matter, of those taking the Emblems, Why ? There will be many looking on, no doubt some active witnesses, who will conclude you and WTS, are frauds.

    Your quasi religeous cult was not formed on the ROCK of CHRIST, It was formed on LIES, WHO is the father of the lie ? SATAN

  • blondie
    blondie

    These are not fake WT articles...hard to imagine I sat through this at 12 years old.

    *** w64 11/15 pp. 691-692 How the Organization Should View Chasteness ***

    CHASTENESS takes sex into account. In the light of God’s holy Word sex is sacred. Sex did not spring from blind, unintelligent, unmoral, accidental evolution operating toward a selfish end. Human sex, as well as the sex of animals, fish, birds, insects, and plants, is of God. Is God immoral because he created sex? No! He did not purpose the great wave of sex madness that is sweeping the world, resulting in all kinds of terrible social diseases or unhealth. He purposed that sex should serve a miraculous purpose, that of propagating life in its various forms on earth, including human life. In very simple language the first chapter of the Holy Bible explains to us the origin and the purpose of sex in mankind. Chapter one, verses twenty-seven and twenty-eight, of Genesis (the first book of the Bible) says:

    2 "And God proceeded to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them. Further, God blessed them and God said to them: ‘Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth.’"

    3 The male sex organs and the female sex organs were to cooperate in fulfilling this God-given command. Thus the sex organs are not playthings to have a lot of fun with, for such fun does not serve the divine purpose. It results in injury not alone to the sex organs but to the whole individual who tries to have fun in this way. The sex organs, rather than being toys, serve a most serious purpose. For that reason the sex organs, male and female, have a sacred aspect or way of being looked at. They have to do with life, especially the life of a coming generation of humans.

    --------------------

    The 60's must have been a crazy time re sex in the WTS....remember that a woman is a heifer part?

    *** w61 12/15 p. 767 Questions From Readers ***

    Large herds of cattle, both male and female, wander over the plains feeding. Ordinarily the male or bull would not think of approaching the female or cow for sex purposes. If he did approach he would not receive a hearty welcome, but, rather, he might be gored by the cow’s horns. There is no petting or sex relations between bull and cow permitted, because the female is not in physical condition to breed. The bull seems to understand this and keeps in his own place. However, when the female of the species is in condition to breed, she makes the matter known. If there is no male in the herd, she will go elsewhere looking for one and she is unsettled until she finds one and then is bred by him. Now she is contented, and the end result is a calf. In this connection it is interesting to note that the male animal has no season at which he is not willing to engage in the breeding act.

    If we humans would take a lesson from these creatures, we would learn something of importance in matters of sex, as to its purpose and the results of its operation.

    As with a cow, when a young girl who has reached her puberty is in physical condition to conceive and become pregnant, her sex emotions are greatly aroused. If she has association with a boy, she is inclined to think that it is the sweetness of the "boy friend" that causes this delightful and new feeling, and so she becomes infatuated with him. If the boy friend should become sexually aroused and lets her know it and then she yields her body to the advances of the amorous boy friend, she is likely to become pregnant as a result of just one sex experience of this kind.

  • donny
    donny

    I guess that means I have to get rid of my Fleshlight. Bummer

    www.fleshlight.com

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    WT 12-15-1961 . . . Watch it! The ovum is at large!!!

    Tee hee hee.

    Syl

  • pirata
    pirata

    @djeggnog wrote: in posting what you did to this thread, you and @lovelylil and @pirata were all off-topic

    @djeggnog, I was replying to your statement:

    @djeggnog wrote: And why on earth would any elder be interested in what a married couple might be doing or need to do in enjoying sexual intimacies with their own marriage mate?

    While I agree that Elders are not interested in other couple's sex lives, the watchtower quote shows that there are times when organizational guidelines require elders get involved in matters involving a married couples sex life (such as if it becomes known thaty have oral sex).

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