Welfare Queen Asks For Too Much.
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Bangalore
Welfare Queen Asks For Too Much
by Bangalore 170 Replies latest jw friends
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Band on the Run
I've seen teenage girls think having a baby is like buying a cheap doll. I know people abuse entitelement programs on a large scale. During college, however, I worked in social welfare agencies and visited homes. I always stamped my feet to scare off rats. It is not a life style I think I could ever endure. No luxury, no nice things, problems snowballing, wretched schools. I remain haunted by what I saw. The best part was that NYC had a decent housing code. NYC paid welfare benefits. Some idiot sponsored a law that tenants cannot enforce the NYC Code is they receive welfare benefits. Otherwise, the tenants could have diverted their rent to making certain the building code was enforced. It was a very structured program. The day I visited the rent strike building was the evening I learned never, ever to drink when upset.
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ekruks
BandOnTheRun - I have to agree with you.
Lots of the local brothers and sisters claim welfare, often so they can work less so they can pioneer (!?) It's frowned upon, and supposedly doesn't go on, but many elders do. The very co-ordinator that told me I had to work for everything, had himself worked the system out so that he didn't work - supposedly was looking for work, for years.
In the last days of my pioneering, I did claim welfare, because I couldn't afford to eat. When I stopped pioneering, the stress had made me very ill, so welfare have granted me various provisions at times. My lack of education, means I don't earn much, so they still help me a bit. Living on welfare is not as easy as I ever imagined. The state never pays quite enough to live off. It's a nightmare if you need a car, or even bus, to get to work, because they don't contribute enough for you to pay food, rent and transport.
I know there are girls who just go to the local nightclub and get pregnant to get welfare to provide housing, which I'm not pleased about, though to be honest, life must be bad to push them to that, and the baby shouldn't be on the street. If you don't have a young kid, welfare doesn't provide much, even less if you are a male, as even in this day of equal rights, men are somehow less vulnerable to poverty (!?)
Wear the same clothes for years, no recreation money, and a flat, well, it's better than a cardboard box on the street, but it's poorly-built and the neighbours have problems, which is difficult when you all live so close to each other. One thing about pioneering - all those years of living on a low budget, finding bargains and free things do help.
It gives me a lot of incentive to try harder, to better myself, just to get a better flat, etc. or a car that's so old and rusty that the mechanic keeps hinting it should have been scrapped. However, most other people just accept this as the way it as, and mention how their parents and grandparents lived this way. I think it must be depression, that people just give up, which I can understand, because I have been there. It's so sad though that most people just end up drinking, drugs, etc., which is impossible to pay for on welfare, so prompts crime. Prison doesn't help, therapy/love might. -
NewChapter
"Welfare Queen" was just a trope introduced by Reagan to tickle the conservative outrage. Nobody on welfare lives like a queen. Living on welfare exposes one to some of the worst poverty. And nobody can receive welfare benefits indefinitely anymore. But the trope lives on. It's a ficitonal concept. Do people abuse entitlement programs? Of course. Are they living like royalty? Seriously---when are we going to stop with the loaded language and deal with realities?
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littlerockguy
When the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.
The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan". All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A.... (substituting grades for dollars - something closer to home and more readily understood by all).
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.
The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.
As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.
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botchtowersociety
Lots of people on assistance are earning money under the table.
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NewChapter
Nomad---they receive $1,200 a month in cash benefits. Do you think this is enough to purchase a million dollar home? The story is incomplete, so we don't know if fraud charges will be pressed, but don't you think that is more likely? Do you REALLY think that on 1,200 a month, welfare recipients are living in places like this? You can't use fraud to defend the untrue story that people on welfare on living high on the hog. Fraud is fraud. REAL welfare recipients---those that legally qualify, don't live in places like this. You can't use fraud to prove the case.
Regan was suggesting that the system alone set people up to live luxurious lifestyles. This was never true. Dishonesty may do it, but working within that system will not.
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sabastious
Nobody on welfare lives like a queen.
You don't have to have things to live like a queen, it could be just attitude. This woman had 15 children and now is demanding that they are paid for. Queen bee.
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NewChapter
Lots of people on assistance are earning money under the table
Also true, but again fraud.