Welfare Queen Asks For Too Much

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  • botchtowersociety
    botchtowersociety

    Couple with $1.2 million home accused of welfare fraud

    A wealthy couple living in Seattle, Wash., in a $1.2 million home has been accused of welfare fraud. The couple has been receiving welfare benefits for nearly a decade.

    Suspects drew benefits while on vacation in Turkey

    A Seattle, Wash., couple has been busted by federal authorities for one of the most egregious alleged instances of welfare fraud in recent memory, according to Washington newspaper the Spokesman-Review. David Silverstein and Lyudmila Shimonova are being sued by the U.S. Attorney’s office to recover more than $135,000 that Shimonova is alleged to have received since 2003 in Federal Housing Authority Section 8 assistance.

    Silverstein and Shimonova live in a $1.2 million, three-bedroom property on Lake Washington. Silverstein is known for driving a black Jaguar. The couple, according to the Daily Mail, have gone on weeklong excursions to Moscow in 2003, the Dominican Republic in 2005, Mexico and France in 2009, a 12-day vacation in Israel in 2007 and a two-week stay in Turkey in June.

    Disability, housing assistance, TANF

    Shimanova, according to ABC, claims to be disabled and receives Social Security Disability Income. Shimonova is alleged to have claimed to be a single mother with two children and less than $5,000 in assets to the Department of Housing and Urban Development, as well as being disabled and having less than $2,000 assets to the Social Security Administration. Shimonova also filed for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families benefits.

    Silverstein is alleged to have received $1,272 per month as Shimonova’s “landlord.” Silverstein claims to be married on the website for his chiropractor’s practice and the residence in question is listed as his on his driver’s license. However, his office is claimed as his residence in documents filed with the government, in which he claims to be Shimonova’s landlord.

    Besides the $135,000 in benefits the government is seeking to reclaim, the U.S. Attorney’s Office is also seeking to have fines imposed for at least seven violations of the False Claims Act, according to the Seattle Times. The maximum penalty for doing so is up to $11,000 per offense, so if a judge were to impose the maximum penalties, the couple could also have an additional $77,000 tacked on to their bill with attorney’s fees and court costs. It is not known whether criminal charges are forthcoming.

    Welfare fraud

    It isn’t known how much in federal or state funding is wasted on outright fraud, but it is into the billions.
    According to the Christian Science Monitor, the Social Security Administration made $6.5 billion in overpayments in 2009, but it isn’t known how much was due to inadvertent errors and how much was due to wanton fraud. According to OregonLive, the Social Security Administration is unable to complete sufficient reviews of recipients to be able to prevent fraud and waste, which would have likely ferreted out Shimanova and Silverstein long ago.

    http://www.newsytype.com/13845-couple-welfare-fraud/

  • NewChapter
    NewChapter

    Let's have some numbers on how many people can pull off that kind of fraud, Botch. What percent of people who draw AFDC grants are involved in this kind of fraud?

    Probably about as many as can pull off voter fraud. boo!

  • NomadSoul
    NomadSoul

    Sorry, I just can't get past the irony when someone accuses of other people using loaded words while they are using the same tactics. That's what I can't stand.

    But I'm off subject, so I'll excuse myself.

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    Still looking for a point.

  • botchtowersociety
    botchtowersociety

    Welfare Fraud Stories

    September 2008 – Stanislaus County
    Stanislaus County District Attorney Birgit Fladager announced today that fourteen defendants were found guilty during the month of September 2008 of having
    committed Welfare Fraud or closely related crimes as a result of their failures to reveal on their applications for Cash Aid, Food Stamps, or Child Care benefits that they were not eligible for such benefits. Read More

    August 2008 – Stanislaus CountyTwo Modestans were convicted recently of welfare fraud, according to statements from the Stanislaus County district attorney's office. Kenneth Eurdean Hopper III, 40, applied for food stamps even though a felony conviction disqualified him from receiving such aid. He was sentenced to one year in jail after he pleaded no contest to welfare fraud, a felony, and being under the influence of marijuana, a misdemeanor. Feleni F. Leota, 32, applied for cash aid and food stamps even though she worked two jobs, earning $19,000 annually. She was sentenced to 240 hours of community service after she pleaded no contest to felony welfare fraud.

    January 2008 – Ventura CountyA Simi Valley woman was recently arrested on charges of welfare fraud, identity theft, and committing a new felony offense while on bail. The accused allegedly received $1,694 in cash and food stamps, for which she was not legally eligible, by using fake Social Security numbers similar to her own. The charges also included allegations of identity theft and perjury. She was arrested on the new charges in Simi Valley without incident on January 4. Bail was set at $100,000.

    June 2007 – Butte County
    Eight people were arrested for welfare fraud by investigators from the Butte County District Attorney's Office on the morning of Thursday, June 7, 2007. District Attorney Mike Ramsey made the announcement of the arrests in a press release.

    May 2007 – Los Angeles CountyTo curb welfare fraud, Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich introduced a motion to provide fraud detection and prevention training to all County staff who administer public assistance programs and incorporate “data mining” technology in the Department of Public and Social Services Data warehouse. Currently, the State and County are individually responsible for investigating fraud in their respective programs. This past year, the State’s successful “data mining” program recovered a record $274 million in funds stolen from Medi-Cal. Additionally, on March 21, 2006, the Board approved a motion to develop an interagency Data Warehouse, which DPSS began implementing in July 2007.

    May 2007 – Los Angeles CountyWhile exact figures are difficult to tally, experts estimate as much as $300 billion a year is lost to health care fraud in the United States - more than half of it to organized crime. Medi-Cal spends about $34 billion annually to provide care for about 7 million indigent Californians - with about $3 billion of that lost to fraud, experts say. The state Attorney General's Office has a bureau that deals specifically with Medi-Cal fraud. It's prosecuted about 1,000 such cases over the past eight years - double the number for the previous eight years. Most, officials say, are related to organized crime.

    May 2007 – Los Angeles CountyLana M. and her husband collected welfare benefits in 2003, claiming they earned less than $24,000. But authorities say Lana M., the former office manager of a job-training center for immigrant welfare recipients, also owned a liquor store and recycling business. Authorities say, she drove a $76,000 luxury car, shopped at Neiman Marcus and Saks Fifth Avenue and had $147,980 stashed in her bedroom dresser.

    March 2007 – Arizona/CaliforniaKINGMAN - A Bullhead City woman was sentenced in Phoenix to two months in county jail for illegal using food stamps. Rita M. made false statements on welfare applications on 10 different occasions between August 2000 and September 2004. On the applications, she misstated her income and the number of children she had, and failed to tell the Arizona Department of Economic Security that she already received substantial adoption payments from California. She pleaded guilty to fraudulent schemes and practices with other charges being dismissed. Rita M. was also sentenced to three years’ probation and ordered to pay $54,725 in restitution.

    March 2007 – Butte CountyOROVILLE -- A Paradise woman was sentenced to six months in jail for committing fraud while already in the county jail for a fraud conviction. Lotheda B. was first convicted in November 2005 for defrauding the county Welfare Department of $4,241 in aid. After the conviction, she drew IHSS wages for caring for her mother. A check by the District Attorney's Office IHSS fraud unit found she had claimed to be caring for her mother during the period she was in jail. She was again arrested and charged with defrauding the IHSS system of $646. Lotheda B. was sentenced to 180 days in the county jail, reimbursement, and additional community service. She will face three years probation upon release.

    February 2007 – Ventura CountyValie M. was sentence to six months in jail and three years' probation after she pleaded guilty last month to one count of welfare fraud and two counts of grand theft. She pleaded guilty in January 2007 to pocketing money the state paid her live-in boyfriend so he could take care of her two children. She illegally took housing funds, food stamps, child care and welfare payments totaling about $33,000, including $19,232 for child care services, according to prosecutors.

    November 2006 – Los Angeles CountyThe woman whose son was at the center of last year's Michael Jackson trial has pleaded no contest to welfare fraud. Prosecutors contended that she applied for welfare without disclosing she had money from an insurance settlement. Her attorney said her client "felt she had a viable defense" to the welfare fraud charge, but the attorney says the woman wants to "move on with her life" and not put her family through "a major trial." The woman was ordered to complete 150 hours of community service and pay $8,600 restitution by April 27th.

    June 2006 – Los Angeles CountyWelfare recipients and their friends and relatives defrauded taxpayers of $500 million a year through the county's child care programs, a grand jury report concluded. The report found that nearly half the $1.1 billion CalWORKS child care program is lost to fraud. DPSS staff said the grand jury study shouldn't be used to draw conclusions about child-care fraud because it was not specifically a fraud study.

    April 2007 – Los Angeles CountyThrough their citizen children, illegal immigrants in Los Angeles County collect $420 million annually in welfare and food stamps, according to a report requested by 5th District County Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich. The Los Angeles County Department of Public Social Services told the supervisor that payments to illegal immigrants' children amount to approximately 24% of the county's combined CalWORKS and food stamps budget. According to Antonovich's office, illegal immigrants annually cost the county $360 million in health care and $220 million in incarceration costs.

  • NewChapter
    NewChapter

    Why is it that when people defend the needy, or clarify misrepresentations, we are always accused of supporting fraud? None of us supports fraud, but we don't want it to be used as a disguise to attack those that are honestly in need. Whenever entitlement discussions come up, conservatives immediately start throwing around examples of fraud. Yeah---we get it and we agree---fraud is wrong. Regardless, there are still people that can't make the grade in this brutal economic system, and because we are not apes, we choose to value and help those people.

    NC

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    Am I reading these comments correctly?

    I don't think so, dear JW (peace to you!); to the contrary, I think some are saying:

    1) She may or may not be a "welfare queen" - they don't really live that well after all... and we don't know the "whole" story...

    2) Some of the unwed girls who have multiple illegitimate children do it deliberately... but we don't necessarily know "why"...

    3) Welfare payments in many states, such as Texas and Louisiana are far too low... but no one actually suggested they be increased; someone only sarcastically insinuated that...

    Are the people who wrote these things honestly being serious with the readers on JWN???

    I think they are, with what they posted... but I could be wrong.

    Anyway, peace to you!

    A slave of Christ,

    SA

  • botchtowersociety
    botchtowersociety

    Since the 1960s, the United States has spent $16 trillion on the welfare state. This unfathomable price tag is more than our entire national debt, which just recently reached $15 trillion. With social welfare expenditure at about 35 percent of GDP

    Of the $64.7 billion spent on food stamps last year, $2.5 billion was wasted on improper payments. Medicare fraud costs taxpayers as much as $90 billion a year. Unemployment benefits fraud amounts to about $17 billion annually. These are fraud costs for just three of the seventy programs that comprise the welfare state. The fact is America's welfare state is riddled with corruption.

    Why is there so much abuse in our social programs that goes unnoticed? It's common sense -- our federal government is ill-equipped to manage a massive welfare state because the founding fathers never intended for this responsibility to be within the realm of the federal government's duties. James Madison made this clear: "... [T]he government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like the state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government."

    http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/266424/20111213/privatization-welfare-state-federal-government.htm

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    They keep bring up the fraud because it easier than coming up with and implementing a solution. We're basically talking about a few powerless criers who know they are powerless and the only thing they can think to do is cry about it.

    I'll change when my opinion when I see these ones doing something for real. All else is just message board big talk and not worth much.

  • NewChapter
    NewChapter

    Oh---so they are changing the subject from Welfare Queen to Fraud Royalty?

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