Welfare Queen Asks For Too Much (page 14)

sammielee24

Now, see, I would say the former, dear Sammie (peace to you!). The person "who posts pictures of women they decide are inferior, simply because of the way they look and who they imply are welfare 'queens'. To me, those are the people of LESS worth... by means of their own judging of others in such a way

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You WILL note that I corrected the statement - I missed the edit by a milisecond and couldn't fix it. I understand full well on a personal level, just how society, with it's finger pointing and revulsion for the poor and 'seemingly' undesirable, can create even more complex situations which they then feel entitled to bash some more. sammies

AGuest

The reality in Haiti is the upper 1% keeps the population disenfranchised everyone else, has destroyed their farmland, and gives them no political, economic or judicial power

THANK you, dear NC (peace to you!). I am often ASTOUNDED at the position(s) of some here on such issues. SO smacks of that whole WTBTS perception of the "world." You know, everyone outside of them is evil, the devil's spawn, and if they would only "study the Bible" (meaning, study the WT), they... and their lives... would be "better." Condoms won't solve Haiti's problems anymore than that WT/AW solves those of JWs. Sorry, to make that comparison, but we are, after all, invited to talk "about anything Watchtower" here.

Again, thank you and peace to you!

A slave of Christ,

SA

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And does anyone else here notice that when referring to the disgusting, ignorant, poor, 90% of the references are made about women and their children? The pics are mostly women and mostly with children. Yet the poor are 100% responsible for their plight, and with the feminization of poverty most of those poor are women and children. Seems to me, men are just as capable of making bad decisions, yet they are under represented. Perhaps that is because this a system stacked against women, minorities, and the like, and regardless of decision making powers, they suffer in higher numbers.

Welfare queens. hmph. Yeah, why aren't the kings suffering as much? Why do the princes and princesses suffer more? Because it is more than choice, it is a system.

NC

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Slave: My master beat me for not picking cotton fast enough.

Conservative: Well that is just wrong!

Slave: So will you talk to him? Will you help relieve my suffering? Will you tell him it's wrong?

Conservative: Absolutely not. You need to pick faster and avoid those beatings.

NewChapter

I'm still infuriated and need to spout some more. The upper classes in Haiti speak both Creole and French. The other 90% speak only Creole. Nobody teaches them French because education is a joke. So what do the upper classes do to keep all the power? They make sure that all government, judicial and upper educational opportunities are handled in French. Yet the "solution" is birth control. It f**king baffles my mind when I see into the heart sometimes. Just bafffles my mind.

Can you imagine being hauled into court and being accused of crimes in a language you don't understand? Oh, but it's your own fault cuz you parent's didn't use comdemns. No wonder pushing one for English pisses them off so much.

NC

AGuest

And does anyone else here notice that when referring to the disgusting, ignorant, poor, 90% of the references are made about women and their children? The pics are mostly women and mostly with children.

I did, dear NC (again, peace!). Even asked where the images of the fathers were. Agreed, some (perhaps most) would be mug shots... but not all.

It's like blaming prostitutes: you know, those women who wickedly entice completely innocent men (aka "Johns") into their dark and foreboding boudoirs... then later hold them at knifepoint while they take cash from their wallets/ATMs to pay? Robbed, such men were. Yeah, right. "The WOMEN you gave US... THEY made us 'do it'!" When the truth is it's all about supply and demand: no demand, no need for supply. Ah, well...

[Shaking head] Makes me feel sick sometimes, some viewpoints do...

Peace, dear one... and let's keep on keepin' 'em honest about this!

A slave of Christ,

SA

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Shelby, I've debated on many threads and I get irritated, I laugh, I poke. But it is rare when one of these debates make me feel as sick at heart as this one has. The tendency to kick the weakest down and stand on them and scream "King of the Mountain!". And then reduce all their problems and solutions to a bumper sticker. I am still floored that the complexities and injustices of Haiti have been reduced to "Got Condemns?"

Not only do I want Obama to win, I think he MUST win to save the soul of this country.

NC

AGuest

I'm still infuriated and need to spout some more.

I know, I know, dear one (peace!)... but we also must keep in mind that ignornace isn't exclusive to the poor. True, the poor might have a more valid excuse (limited access to education/information)... but...

Keep it calm, love. Educate, not humiliate...

Peace, girl... and I'll take you with, if you want, if I ever scrape up enough to get to Haiti (and I will! When is the problem, right now - LOLOL!).

YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

SA

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BTW there were some Haiti questions on my exam, and now it is over. I believe I got an A in the class, and now I'm on break. I really need this break, but I'm going to miss that class.

NC

AGuest

it is rare when one of these debates make me feel as sick at heart as this one has.

Me, too... and it made me feel the same way! Which is why I have commented as I have. I totally understand that some... many... don't know. I get that, and I don't take issue with them. But when ones post as if they do... and say such things (i.e., that condoms are the solution!)... I just go, "Wow." ESPECIALLY when it's said of a place like Haiti. HAITI?? Given its political history? (vs. China, India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Brazil, etc. I mean, what's THEIR excuse? Their populations (and poverty) are off the charts... IN SPITE of the first four's attempt to wipe out FEMALES. All of these (except maybe Bangladesh) have money. BIG money. Why do they have POOR? They also have fairly decent education systems; yet, why isn't everyone THERE practicing "safe sex"? Why don't "we" have a problem with THEIR poor populations and have similar "solutions" to offer?). No, no, Haiti is nothing more than a country of dark people who WANT to live the way they do. Funny, the Dominican Republic is right next door... yet, its people don't have the same problem(s)...

I know, girl, I know. Blows the mind. Paradigms are a funny thing, aren't they?

But... we get more accomplished educating folks as to these things, do we not? I mean, so long as they want to BE educated (which isn't always the case!), of course.

Hold it together, sistah... hold it together - LOLOLOL!

Peace!

YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

SA

Welfare Queen Asks For Too Much

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