"You will be objects of hatred "a reasonable understanding

by luap 56 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Celestial

  "By the way, Morbid Tales is one good album, CF has always been my favorite band except during the wts years. Take care."

  I was introduced to the big 4 thrash metal artists (Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth, and Anthrax) of the 1980's in 1988. I will say that Christ Illusion is more atheistic than Slayer's satanic origins (e.g. Hell Awaits, Reign in Blood).
  
  I've kept up from time to time, although the only recent music I was able to get into from the big 4 in the 1990's or 2000 was “Jihad” off Slayer's Christ Illusion album.
  
  Reign in Blood is considered to be the foundation and inspiration of death metal and conveyed a sacramental insight into one of the dark sides of religion like no other album. However, a lot of the death metal bands that followed suit simply didn't appeal to me (e.g. Obituary, Deicide, Napalm Death).
  
  In a general sense, thrash and death metal has always followed me as an inseparable part of my makeup.
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  cantleave

  Witnesses are generally accepted not hated, despite their extreme fundamentalist interpretation of the bible. The only "hate" I have ever come across, is when someone dies, especially a child, due to the stupid blood policy and when families are destroyed by the ridiculous "disfellowshipping" policy.
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  Alfred

  Can someone please hate me... I'd like to live forever in paradise... thank you...
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  Celestial

  "Witnesses are generally accepted not hated, despite their extreme fundamentalist interpretation of the bible. The only "hate" I have ever come across, is when someone dies, especially a child, due to the stupid blood policy and when families are destroyed by the ridiculous "disfellowshipping" policy."
  
  Jehovah's Witnesses are accepted based on how they personally interact in their immediate social environmental like any other person. Meaning, if they build trust based on good works toward their neighbor, this supersedes the accusations of others.
  
  Do JWs accept the Bible, “God's Word,” based on a socially “accepted” interpretation? No. Because there isn't one. So, it gets back to how a person interacts in their immediate social environment, like how I interact with my parents. I can see through the differences presented on this forum that “should” interfere with my relationship with my parents. Your assertions don't interfere, nor will they interfere.
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  N.drew

  Celetial, will you please explain what "there isn't a socially accepted interpretation of God's Word" means?
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  therevealer

  Check out (Luke21:12-19) in your nwt and see if you think it resembles anything that is happening in your congregation or part of the world. And while you are at it check out the asterisk attached to the word soul and tell me why the nwt refers to soul as Or, "your [future] lives."
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  therevealer

  Oops. That last post was directed at Luap
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  N.drew

  “So make up your minds not to prepare before hand to defend yourselves; Luke 21:14! What do you all do at the meetings? Prepare! Prepare! and then prepare some more! :)
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  Celestial

  Celetial, will you please explain what "there isn't a socially accepted interpretation of God's Word" means?

  Cantleave pretty much explained some.
  
  Disfellowshipping – not accepted
  
  A person may decide to cut someone off for one reason or another, but it's not socially accepted as a religious formality.
  
  Blood policy – not accepted
  
  A person may choose a safer alternative than blood, but the policy is not socially accepted in the context of religion.
  
  The scriptures that are the basis for these policies aren't left to interpretation. They say what they say.
  
  There are ways in which conservative Christian groups have used and sometimes exploited scripture to deny human rights to gays and lesbians. This isn't socially acceptable to the LGBT community.
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  N.drew

  OK thanks. I was thinking "interpreted from the Hebrew and Greek". It is my mission!

  It is my mission to go back to the beginning. I think people should not argue what words mean. I believe if people can agree on what spirit IS then the words confirm the spirit, not the other way around.

  4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. Ephesian 4:4-6