Is Biblical Morality Situational, Based Upon the Arbitrary Whims of Yahweh? (page 13)

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The very idea of natural selection is that the best traits are passed on through the will to survive at any cost.

Hmmmm---that simply doesn't explain the peacock tail. Don't you know it's not about survival---it's about sex?

NC

sabastious

Is this according to the Sab version of evolutionary biology?

We'll work on the name.

-Sab

sabastious

Don't you know it's not about survival---it's about sex?

It's about the environment for lots of sex which is obtained by building big walls and telling everybody inside that God is talking to them.

-Sab

I don't follow what you are saying. God doesn't talk to peacocks. I have no idea what you are talking about with walls etc. You brought natural selection into the discussion---and from it extrapolated some understanding about life and death---yet your understanding about natural selection is wrong. Since it seems to play a heavy role in your wider understanding about life, I thought it would be helpful to point out that you have a bit to learn about the process.

NC

sabastious

Wait, you just said life would never openly choose death. Which is it? Will it NEVER choose death or will it? And how do you know it's always illogical?

How much computing time do you give my sentences in your brain (besides time to read)? Three maybe four nano seconds a piece? If you stop and think you might learn something besides where my words seemingly contradict. There was a time when no life on this planet chose death over life. Then that changed. You have you explanation I have mine. That change, according to my beliefs of the Torah, was when Noah was selected to start a new world. I do not have a date for it at this time. That selection process, just like dog breeders and grape breeders, created Aristotle when Greece set up walls around themselves for him to be born.

-Sab

sabastious

God doesn't talk to peacocks.

God most definitely does talk to peacocks.

-Sav

talesin

I have a question for those who believe in the Bible.

Do you feel the account of Job is literal or symbolic?

This was one tale I could *not* get past, when I started looking at the Biblical 'account' critically.

God and Satan sat back and watched while God tortured Job, just to prove a point? How is this moral? How can God be LOVE?

If one takes this account literally (and even symbolically), God is no more than a jealous, possessive tyrant, who only cares about itself, and will go to any lengths to prove its superiority to its main rival, Satan.

(talk about your situational morality; ref the OP)

This is diametrically opposed to JC's message of love --- does not compute, in this reader's mind.

Really, I'm not being sarcastic.

tal

cofty

Sab - if you could read your own posts from the point of view of your readers you would see there are a lot of missing connections that make it impossible for us to follow your line of reasoning.

sabastious

yet your understanding about natural selection is wrong.

Your understanding of my understanding is wrong. Allow me to elaborate: take Hawaii for example. It's an Island created soley by volcanic activity at the bottom of the sea. Slowly that activity builds an entire mountain of cooled volcanic rock. Then a tempest brought along a species of plant that didn't need soil to grow. The volcanic Island now had organic matter growing without soil and over time the compost of that plant provided the environment for more plants and eventually all life on Hawaii. Natural selection involves raw material first, then time, then survival then more time, then procreation.

If an entity such as YHWH exists it would have a lot of information on how and what to do which brings me to my original answer to LWT. The morality of God is immeasurably complex. That doesn't mean questions like the OP are bad or not useful, they are just the types of questions that may never be able to be definitely answered with empiracle evidence. Logic is then required to bridge the gap.

-Sab

sabastious

if you could read your own posts from the point of view of your readers you would see there are a lot of missing connections that make it impossible for us to follow your line of reasoning.

For some, maybe.

-Sab

Is Biblical Morality Situational, Based Upon the Arbitrary Whims of Yahweh?

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