by leavingwt 268 Replies latest jw friends
If I ever successfully teach you something no one will ever know about it including me. I'm ok with that.
Don't worry, bro. Given your apparent knowledge of, well, anything, I don't think you know much of anything. And I am sure you are OK with that.
I think the appropriate response is make me.
Make you what? Pretty? Smart? Know there is a difference between a puppy and grape? A cake? Understand basic English? Learn to use the potty?
Now EP....whilst I don't disagree with what you have said...this type of comment is what makes me switch off to what you have to say...
Sab, since you CLEARLY have no desire to learn, be smarter, improve yourself or do anything that takes you out of your comfort zone, you have deemed worthy of mocking.
It is such an arrogant and assuming comment. And has nothing to do with the conversation. Just because he doesn't agree with you does not mean that your above comment is even remotely true or factual. You demand proof of what others say and yet make sweeping opinionated comments like this with nothing to support it. And often in a very personal critical style. Are you not able to stick to the facts yourself without being unpleasant?
I don't think
Hey look, Sab! You got something right tonight finally!
It would be like a dog breeder who breeds for fast dogs being accused that his dogs could not win in a foot race.
Oh, and you were off to such a good start. Exactly how do you think dogs race if not on foot? Or do you still think they are genetically righteous puppy grapes that the bible clearly mentions?
Please state your comment in the form of a question.
-Sab
It is such an arrogant and assuming comment
No, it isn't. Sab makes statements and then, when cornered, tries to change the subject rather than address his comments. If you say something, either stand behind it or admit you might be wrong if evidence show such. Sab will do neither yet claim, as he did on this very thread, that he knows how to tell people how to worship.
That, in my opinion, which I will stand behind and support all day, is arrogant, foolish and stupid.
Just because he doesn't agree with you does not mean that your above comment is even remotely true or factual.
Absolutely true, were he making statements of opinion. However, he is trying to pass conjecture off as fact, opinion as dogma, bullshit as true. Gotta call him on it. Not sorry for it at all.
You demand proof of what others say and yet make sweeping opinionated comments like this with nothing to support it.
That's quite an opinionated sweeping statement to make without knowing whether or not I have anything to support it. Did you ask me, like I did Sab, for supporting evidence? Did you check or just make that statement without doing any background research?
And often in a very personal critical style. Are you not able to stick to the facts yourself without being unpleasant?
Ah, well, if you had bothered to go back and read, Sab, when backed into a corner after making sweeping statements without any proof (the kind YOU hate, apparently), likes to get personal, start with the snide comments. They are easy enough to ignore. I mean, I do have kids, I get that type of mentality and can ignore it. But, just like my kids, when they do one foolish thing after another, it's just time to let them hurt themselves and learn that, if you keep saying silly things, you get made fun of.
So, I ask you, are you not able to read a thread? Or is this all about the time you tried to tangle with me before and got your feelings hurt when you did the same thing Sab did, make sweeping statements, got questioned and called on them and then got all upset?
Please state your comment in the form of a question.
Do you have a scripture, as you claimed existed, that shows Yahweh specifically said Noah was a puppy and he loved Noah's genetically perfect, round, firm, juicey man grapes?
God was approached by Satan and then he mentions Job as a man who shuns evil. God is rubbing Satan's face in the fact that this man is rebuking all that makes Satan the Devil. Did God know that Satan would challenge him to a battle of wits over Job's fate? Likely. However he also knew that Satan would eventually pull this and he knew this to be a time no greater than any to rebuke him even further.
Yes, but you are NOT answering my question. Are these actions those of a loving Father?
GOD tortured Job to make his point. How does this make it a superior being? It is so concerned about its ego that it would torture a man and take away everything he loves, to prove that he deserves loyalty?
That is not a God, or even a person, that I would want to know, worship, or even be acquainted with.
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I am not upset...so do not patronise me. My feelings were not hurt, I was simply disgusted in your behaviour. Much like a child behaving badly, but you don't appear to recognise this in yourself.
As I said, I do not disagree with what you have to say...but the style in which you say it. You make some very valid points. But it is difficult to see them sometimes through the sniping.
Absolutely true, were he making statements of opinion. However, he is trying to pass conjecture off as fact, opinion as dogma, bullshit as true. Gotta call him on it. Not sorry for it at all.
I have no problem with that...but saying he is 'worthy of mocking'...in whose opinion?
Let me sum up, really quickly. If you, any of you, don't want to be called on what you write, then take some time and think it through. If it can't be proved, just admit it. If you say something wrong, do what well adjusted adults do and admit it. Then move on.
Sticking to your guns even when you have been proven obviously and, at some point, depending on how long you try to stick to your guns, ridiculously wrong, is just asking for it.
If you have faith, want to beleive in God, that's cool. But, having said that, don't make up stuff about the Bible. Or God. I promise you, as a collective, we know AT LEAST as much about what's in the Bible and probably more ABOUT the Bible.
Facts are easily checked. Maybe I am going out on a limb here, but maybe, just maybe you might want to check your "facts" before you post them, because someone else WILL.
I am not upset...so do not patronise me.
I wasn't attempting to. Don't project your feelings onto me.
I was simply disgusted in your behaviour.
Ok.
Much like a child behaving badly, but you don't appear to recognise this in yourself.
Perhaps you should restructure that sentence. I am not not sure how you being disgusted is something I could recognize in myself. Since you don't want help (lest you thhink I am patronising you), your sentence doesn't construct a valid or logical thought. Perhaps you could restructure it?
As I said, I do not disagree with what you have to say...but the style in which you say it
Ah, well. I don't like wheat beers. I guess we all have our burdens to bear.
I have no problem with that...but saying he is 'worthy of mocking'...in whose opinion?
In mine. Who else's opinion do you think I would be stating? Do you think I would be so presumptuous as to state what I felt someone else's opinion was?
It was my opinion based on our conversation, his attempt to suggest he could claim the Bible clearly said something it does not and then his attempt at personal snide comments and to change the subject.
But, in case it wasn't clear, if a grown adult, on a public forum, presume to make a claim that is demonstrably false, then claims they can tell others what to think, then, when called on those things, can engage in snide comments, ridiculous attempts to twist words to mean what they want and change the subject, then yeah, in my opinion, at that point, there is no more meaningful conversation and mocking is the way to go.
I freely admit, perhaps the smart thing to do is just back away, but I do have such a tough time letting people spew ignorance and lies without calling them on it to the bitter end. Perhaps that is my foible and challenge.
