Is the Watchtower shy about repeating their new "generation" teaching?

by slimboyfat 245 Replies latest jw friends

  • Vidqun
    Vidqun

    I know you said you’re not comfortable discussing this with me, but seeing you don’t mind getting personal, I have freedom of speech to say my say. This is JWN, and I think we are allowed to do that:

    Firstly, I thought your illustration of the convention was amusing. Do use it in a talk. The R&F will love it. Pity a convention is three to five days long, not exactly what we are discussing here, is it? But you love to obfuscate and convolute the issues with inane arguments (nice word “obfuscate”, thanks 00Dad).

    Secondly, please do not associate God’s spirit with your hit and miss theology. It is disgusting and it dishonours God. God’s spirit doesn’t go “enie, menie, minie, mou….” Please, you are giving God and his spirit a bad name, i.e., blasphemy. You don’t want to do that, do you?

    Thirdly, you candidly avoid the subject of selective quoting and dishonest scholarship, because you know it to be true. The writers of the Society don’t like quoting sources. How often have you seen, “According to a Greek scholar…” No quote, no source. Whether you like it or not, that’s dishonest. They don’t want you to look it up, because you will see it is a partial or misquote. I gave you a few examples, but you ignored them, because the truth hurts. Sorry about that.

    Fourthly, I gave you a dictionary definition of the word “contemporary.” The plural of this word occurs in both quotes of the Society (from the Dictionary as well as the Lexicon). Whether you define the word or interpret it, it can only mean: “happening, living, existing, or coming into being at the same period of time, one that is contemporary with another, or one of the same or nearly the same age as another.”

    Fifth point is a question, Where do you think the Society got the information from, contained in the Aid and Insight books? Did a lot of the information not come from Christendom’s commentaries? But how can that be? Christendom resorts under the harlot, Babylon the Great. Unfortunately the R&F doesn’t know that, because most of the time they don’t quote or give their sources, because they are dishonest.

    Sixth, and final point, I never questioned the scholarship of the NWT. You inferred it. I did ask YOU whether there was a problem with the translation of the word “generation”, because the latest explanation does not fit the original translation of the word. But I think you are either thick or you love to obfuscate, as stated previously.

    PS The Beasts of Revelation, let’s not go there. If you don’t know the beasts or their history in the Society's literature, rather avoid the subject altogether, otherwise you might just throw your name away.

  • THE GLADIATOR
    THE GLADIATOR

    djeggnog “Just in case you didn't understand me, let me say to you again: I'm not a nice person and I'm not here to be your friend, @THE GLADIATOR's friend, anyone's friend. If @THE GLADIATOR should feel he needs you to run interference for him, you cannot run interference for him. I don't allow it. I expect men to step up to me like men and I don't not expect them to cower or tuck their tails between their legs in fear as if they were a scared animal, a dog. ”

    When I'm away the mice will play. It seems I have missed all the fun. I am shaking - with laughter. Thank you for helping me see where I have gone wrong. I had mistaken you for a Christian, but you are of course a Jehovah's Witnesses - not nice.

    Unfortunately your attempts to sound butch have had the opposite effect. Your child-like petulance and hissy fits are rather sweet and endearing. Come to daddy.

    May your gods and The Governing Body go with you.

  • iCeltic
    iCeltic

    Don't care what others think are right or wrong? I endeavour to live my life by Gods standards? Can you see the problem with those two statements? If you were living your life according to Gods standards then you would care about other people and whether or not they know right and wrong.

    And the facts are there is a new, overlapping generation teaching. Watchtower themselves used the word overlapping. If you choose to call your new doctrine by a different name that's up to you. Can we assume you know that you no longer believe watchtower teaching from the 1990's on the generation? And that you believe the new teaching on generation involving two groups of overlapping generations? If so then do yourself a service and stop being fussy over the actual term.

    Slimboyfat has it spot on.

  • elderelite
    elderelite

    Poor eggnogg.... Perhaps a bit of biblical advise would serve you well:

    Proverbs 10:19 - (nwt) in the abundance of words there does not fail to be trangression

  • breakfast of champions
    breakfast of champions

    One thing you should know about me is that I'm not a nice person and I don't care what others think to be right or wrong.

    Didn't Jesus say this?

  • No Room For George
    No Room For George
    What "new overlapping generations teaching"? Barr didn't introduce any such teaching among Jehovah's Witnesses. You know this already, but you are going to believe what you want to believe, aren't you, no matter what the facts might be? At least now we know what you "think," don't we?
    djeggnog

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/182601/1/Notes-From-the-Annual-Meeting-Oct-3-2009

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/183607/1/New-understanding-of-the-Generation

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/211116/1/Overlapping-Generations-one-year-later

    Here DJ, refresh your memory. I can't recall when this spin was introduced via the literature, but if I'm not mistaken the annual meeting was the first we heard of this latest interpretation of "this generation." The first link is probably alll you need to see DJ.

  • transhuman68
    transhuman68

    I know nozzink....

  • Vidqun
    Vidqun

    Transhuman68, you remind me of the poster of Johnny English: He knows no fear. He knows no danger. He knows nothing.

  • donny
    donny

    Notice how many weasel words/phrases are used whn trying to explain this unexplainable teaching.

    Logically.....

    This suggests....

    and it surely.....

    evidently.....

    It usually refers....

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    I know the Watchtower didn't use the term "overlapping generations", but that is because they are maintaining the fiction that two overlapping groups over 100 years actually constitute a single generation. They are stretching language and incredulity to breaking point. But that doesn't mean others are compelled to follow them in misusing language. If it looks like two generations (by any reasonable non-Watchtower skewed definition) then we might as well call it what it is. So I am calling the doctrine the "overlapping generations" doctrine to underline just how absurd it is. I don't know that the Watchtower has an alternative official name for the new teaching anyway. And I doubt they will bother to come up with a name for the teaching because either they will change it yet again, or they'll just neglect to draw attention to it in future. And no wonder, because it is a pure embarrassment and an insult to people's intelligence.

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