The Bible and Genetics

by sabastious 132 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Larsinger58
    Larsinger58

    SAB. Interesting post. Let me assist you a bit about the esoteric trinity, though.

    The truly HOLY TRINITY is right before your eyes in the Most Holy. Two angels and the Ark of the Covenant make up the holy trinity. That is, God, Christ and Christ's wife. The Ark of the Covenant represents Jehovah's holiness and Holy Mount Zion upon which the two angels dwell to reflect God's holiness. These angels are called the "covering cherubs" because their wings cover the ark. These two special unique angels are none other than Jesus Christ who is Michael the archangel and his companion/wife, the angel who became Satan.

    Satan is said to represent a "pattern" and that pattern is reflected in the universe. The Sun represents Christ. The Moon, Satan. Satan is the most beautiful angel in the universe, how appropriate for the wife of Christ, right?

    In Eden though, when we look for the trinity, it is elusive. That trinity would be Adam, Eve and not the serpent, but God himself. You see, Adam and Eve were based on those two angels, who were considered male and female. The two trees in the garden also reflected the two angels. The tree of Life, which comes from the man, is associated with Michael the archangel, Jesus Christ. The tree of KNOWLEDGE is associated with the angel Satan. Of course, Adam was created to reflect Christ/Michael and Eve to reflect his beautiful wife, Satan.

    Now, thus, at Genesis 3:15 when God said: "I will put enmity between YOU and the woman and between your seed and her seed," Jehovah is speaking to the invisible principal involved here, namely Michael the archangel. Thus God was decreeing a divorce for Jesus Christ from Satan and Satan's followers in heaven and Christ and his followers in heaven. This plays out in Revelation in the battle in heaven. So the "woman and her seed" is a reference to the position in heaven of Satan as Christ's wife and that reflection in Eden as Eve. After saying the above to the invisible Jesus Christ present there, he turned to Satan and said: "He (i.e. Jesus Christ/Michael) will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel." Meaning over the next nearly 7000 years as this all plays out, Satan would kill Michael as Jesus Christ when he became a man, but he would be resurrected; that represented a bruise in the heel. Christ, however, after the millennium, would permanently destroy Satan in the lake of fire; that represented a fatal blow as the bruise in the head.

    Now, follow the gnostic understanding of Satanism. You'll find much Christian artwork thar reflect Satan as a half-snake woman! That is, the gnostic understanding of Satan connects her true identity as the Mother Goddess in paganism, a woman. Satan is even depicted as a woman on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.

    Satan-woman

    FREEMASONIC SATANISM REPRESENTED BY THE TRIANGLE AND PYRAMID: Besides the above, the number THREE, the triangle and the pyramid are more directly connected to Satan by esoteric representation. That is, to be blunt and brief, Satan is depicted in the Bible to have 9 out of the 12 stones that represent Christ. The 12 strones on the breastplate of the high priest representing Jesus Christ is the basis for the square and the cube. When this is transferred to diagramatic images, the 12 stones become the four sides of a square, 3 stones each. Satan, Christ's wife, though, has only nine stones. When those are transferred to diagramatic images you get the trinagle and the pyramid. Thus Satanism is represented by those images and three. 3x3=9 In Freemasonry the marriage as well as the competition ("enmity") between Christ and Satan is represented by the triangle vs. the square where the triangle dominates the square, favoring Satan dominating or winning over Christ.

    compass and square

    So in Freemasonry, you have again, the holy trinity of God, Christ and Satan, reflecting the two covering cherubs, husband and wife and their special relationship on Mount Zion with God. The "square" of course, represents Christ and the compass, Satan and the triangle. But notice how the compass cuts past and into the square and is above the "G." This simply represents Satan's ego over both God and christ and how Satan was prophesied to bruise Christ in the heel.

    In other words, your conclusion that there is an implied trinity between the snake, Adam and Eve is misinterpreted. Or in the case of Revelation where BTG is the harlot riding the wild beast combined with Satan also a non-relevant trinity. What I'm saying is that there are esoteric trinities all around us, but their identities have long been established in the gnostic, esoteric and Satanic world.

    Even so, it reflects some very basic realities going back to Eden, which is Christ versus Satan in the presence of God. In the end, Satan is killed and Christ gets a new bride, this one from the earth! Thus Christ's new Bride is the church. JWs associate these with the 144,000, but the 144K are the natural Jews in the covenant making up only 10% of the entire number (Isa. 6:13); the entire number of king-priests that become the wife of Christ, thus replacing Satan on Holy Mount Zion is actually 1,440,000!

    All that to say this. Every trinity is not esoterically relevant. You can decide what you want, but it seems illogical to make presumptions without studying esoteric Satanism and Freemasonry.

    Finally, speaking of esoteric "genetics", gnosticism of Eden, especially reflecting the curse upon Eve to lust after her husband, suggests that Adam was Black and Eve was white. This reflects the dominance of the male over the female. Thus genetically, blacks carry the dominant genes and whites the recessive genes. Thus a lot of Satanic gnosticism takes on a racist edge with whites using special knowedge provided by Satan to dominate and suppress blacks. The "Mysteries" are thus very white supremacist in nature. Nazism is thus a very indirect form of Satanism.

    I could go on and on. I would just like to caution you a bit, that a lot of this is all worked out in minute detail already, so it is a mine field to make any king of generalized presumptions of what might be represented in Scripture, which has a 50/50 chance of meaning nothing. But you definitely touch on something extremely relevant. That is, there are many secrets and hidden representations in the Bible that exist by reading between the lines. That's a good trait to have. That curiosity of the "deeper things of Satan."

    Of course, as you might know, I'm Jesus Christ in the flesh now, so it will actually be me who will be tossing Satan into the lake of fire. Satan is incredibly beautiful but she's a b*%tch and won't be missed. Once kicked out of heaven, the angels partied for three whole days! So Satan was a major pain the anus up in heaven. In the meantime, Christ and his new wife made up of gorgeous mankind, whom he fell in love with, will life happily ever after in Heaven. Of note, no chances are taken with the second wife. The elect are tested to the death first to prove their loyalty before Christ is to marry them.

    Well, enough about moi for now. Enjoyed your post. When you consider that three, the triangle and the pyramid are directly linked to Satan's identity, you can understand the insult of the "pyramidology" of C.T. Russell in the context of Bible prophecy. You can understand why a seeing-eye pyramid adorns his gravesite, etc. The WTS is now considered to be part of Babylon the Great and fully apostate and Satanic and has been abandoned by God and Christ after removing the true sheep. The WTS as the "false prophet" will thus go off into destruction along with the rest of Christendom, represented by the 666-beast, which by the way converts to the name of "KKK" showing how racist/Satanic Christianity ultimately is. But worry not -- it's all under control, really. Just a matter of a little time (i.e. I'm looking at this year kicking of the millennium on 12/21/12!)

    LS

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    Hello LS, your post was also interesting. There are a few things that I cannot subscribe to in good conscience however. First Jesus Christ and Michael the Archangel in the Bible are not the same entity. This is proven in the opening of Revelation:

    Revelation 1 - 17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.

    There is only one spirit being that has died and rose and that is Jesus Christ. So it is Christ that is speaking to John in Revelation. Revelation 12 mentions the Michael character:

    Revelation 12 - 7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

    If Michael and Christ are the same then in verse 17 of chapter 1 when the entity indentifies himself he would have included his Arch Angel title at the very least if not his personal name. Michael is an agent of Christ who is YHWH and also who is not YHWH who came through humanity and died. There is something very specific about a spirit who has become that by dying as a human. It's heavily implied in the Bible narrative that something dramatically changes a spirit when it lives as a human and dies. Apparently Christ required this process to become Satan's replacement. This could be that Satan used various miraclous conceptions to be humans as well and balance was required for Good to win the Game.

    Also your idea that Christ is male and Satan is female is spurious and can be disproven by the Bible.

    John 16 - 1 “All this I have told you so that you will not fall away. 2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God. 3 They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. 4 I have told you this, so that when their time comes you will remember that I warned you about them. I did not tell you this from the beginning because I was with you, 5 but now I am going to him who sent me. None of you asks me, ‘Where are you going?’ 6 Rather, you are filled with grief because I have said these things. 7 But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. 8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 about sin, because people do not believe in me; 10 about righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; 11 and about judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.

    A prince is a male entity and a son of the King: YHWH. Rather than husband and wife, Christ and Satan are more accurately represented as brothers contesting over the same throne. You are also not Jesus Christ you are Larsinger58 and no one else. Again this can be proven using the Bible alone.

    Revelation 1 -7 “Look, he is coming with the clouds,”
    and “every eye will see him,
    even those who pierced him”;
    and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.”
    So shall it be! Amen.

    Christ is not represented by the sun he IS, for all intents and purposes, the sun. I belive that when Christ died he was taken to the sun and there his spirit resides and watches over everybody. The Kingdom the Bible speaks about started the second Christ was baptized in the Jordan when YHWH said he was approved. Then he died for three days which represents the sun's death right before the end of the winter only to rise again in the clouds because spring is rainy and the sky would likely have clouds with it.

    I would just like to caution you a bit, that a lot of this is all worked out in minute detail already, so it is a mine field to make any king of generalized presumptions of what might be represented in Scripture, which has a 50/50 chance of meaning nothing.

    I appreciate the concern, but when I left the Watchtower I was either going to give up on the Bible entirely or explain it myself without direct outside influence. I have had enough of that. The Bible and the Holy Spirit is all one needs, that's what the book says.

    -Sab

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    So a snake has a Y shaped tongue, so what ? Its only because of the xian influence on our society that we associate snakes with lies. In reality you have been taught that concept, the idea is just ludicrous just like the Eve believing the snake story. By making that statement, you still show that you to some extent still believe snakes are liars or can lie.

    Satan misled the humans he didn't lie to them outright. He loved them becase he wanted them as his own. One of the Serpent's main charactistics is envy. I think you are relying too much on accepted interpretation. I believe it's better to try to put yourself in the shoes of the people of the writer's day rather than read accepted commentary. The ancient world paid special attention to the parralells between their lives and anything physical around them. They desperately wanted a better life and the Lie has always stood in opposition to happiness. Snakes get a bad wrap because of their forked tongue. It's really as simple as that. Their hissing and togue make them the perfect allegory for deciet. The snake is NOT an endearing term in the Bible, ever. It means war of words which is this planet's main problem. It's why the old Prince of the World stood condemned.

    -Sab

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    PART II: The Abel Cain Transformation, The Noahic Strain and Unnatural Selection
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    The Abel Cain Transformation

    In Genesis Abel is described as favored by YHWH over Cain. Abel represents the Hunter/Gatherer's and Cain represents the Agriculturalist's. The life of Abel was more of a man and his dog across the plains and Cain's was an early civilized man. Both classes master their environment in different ways so there is no actual reason to go from one to the other other than preference. Cain was an agent of the Serpent and had strong Adamic traits. He wanted to conquer the world and he knew that to do that was to control the elements. The first prized resource is food through the harvest. This is why Cain brings things grown to sacrifice to YHWH. YHWH is angered by this because there is no reason to fundamentally change the way humans do things. There would be no way to convince people like Abel to change from Hunters to Civilized Men. Creating a new class meant war. Therefore YHWH rejects Cain's offering entirely, favoring the ways of the Hunter/Gatherer's. This creates bitter jealousy from the Adamic trait of Love in Cain. He wants to be accepted by his father like anyone does, but has values that favor progress towards being civilized. His bitterness turns to hate and the Bible's first murder is committed. This symbolizes a total enforcement of the new idea on the old world.

    The Noahic Strain and Unnatural Selection

    Wickedness in the World

    Genesis 6 - 1 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

    4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

    5 The LORD saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. 7 So the LORD said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD.

    The ages of people in Genesis 5 are not actually human ages. This will not be fully detailed out until much later in this blog. The Bible doesn't speak of the actual human lifespan until Genesis 6:3 where it accurately calculates the top end of a human life in ideal conditions.

    Before I go any further I would like to point out a pattern in the Genesis Document's style. It likes to have a short explanation of something and a detailed explanation of it. Genesis 6 (like Genesis 1) actually works stand alone apart from the rest of the account. To me this is the document asserting what the writer knows to be true in the beginning and then is attempting to detail it out in a certain style. They appear to be logical anchors so to speak or Anchor Sections. There purpose would be if you ever got to muddy waters logically when detailing it out that you would still have a logical unchanging starting point. Verse eight seems to be one of those anchors.

    At this point the spirit realm is fully interacting with the Adamic Strain, just as planned. Adam and Eve had their children and the Serpent had a bag full of breadcrumbs and was waiting for them. Cain was just a puppet after all. His killed for what he believed in, but sadly was misled. Change was not needed, it only made the Serpent stronger. The Serpent's true purpose is exposed here. He is not interested in the humans, only living through the humans. Of course the Serpent would not live through one of the lower people in society for they were the slaves. The tools. Nor would he live through the lives of women, who were just the dogs of the men. They were just the factory for making a great nation of the Men of Renown. People of importance. It feels good to be important because it feeds the part of us that still is the Adamic Strain.

    The moment Noah passed whatever hidden test YHWH had for him he approaches him in person. Like Willy Wonka approached Charlie and gave him the Chocolate Factory. The world is described as a very dirty place and not worth saving. Noah is commanded by YHWH to create an Ark and to put all the animals in it to save them from the coming Apocalypse. From our vantage point in history this seems a bit silly and I don't think the writers would disagree. However they would tell you to continue reading and try to make sense of it because it does make sense. YHWH was well aware that Noah had no ability to complete the task. However he knew that Noah would do anything YHWH asked because he showed the trait of Faith. "You got Faith? Well, hell let's make a boat! Let's get a new people going this show was getting old!" Likely the command to get animals was a way for YHWH to gather data on which animals the people of the future would prefer to have. YHWH is like a father who got his son back and is telling him to grab his favorite toys.

    Unnatural Selection

    YHWH uses Unnatural Selection and destroys the entire world while saving Noah and his family who repopulate the earth. However, the Adamic Strain still pulsed through their veins. "The same blood runs through my veins, the same weakness" said Aragorn in J J R Tolkien's Lord of the Rings as told by Peter Jackson. The Apostle Paul also mentioned strong doubts about one's self as well. It is a powerful Strain much like a primary color is bright. Not much is needed for it to come forth into the outside world. Now that the foundation had been set, it was time to create a testing ground for further selection. At this point the Serpent has taken a more observational approach, but only until they increase in number again. The Serpent wants to live through the experiences of the Adamic strain, but it just got started over with a new foundation. The Enochian Anomaly is what YHWH knew would come from what the Serpent was doing and now the tables had turned. The Creator now gets to play his hand.

    -Sab

  • Matsimus
    Matsimus

    Thank you all for very interesting reading! To me, it seems like the bible can be seen as a mirror where people will se different images depending on how they are thinking. I my opinion the flaw is that different religious ideologies can force others to look in this mirror in a spesific way, by telling them what to look for. I personally think that the WTS exploits this and is very repetative about what you see in the mirror, and of course if you say that you see something different you are shunned for it.

    Matsimus

  • cofty
    cofty

    Its a mistake to assume a book is meaningful just becasue its very old.

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    Its a mistake to assume a book is meaningful just becasue its very old.

    I totally agree, but this blog is attempting to explain how ancient textbooks, specifically the Bible, are designed for the purpose of ethical/moral education and communing with one's Creator. For many millenia the words of those textbooks helped the human mind along. Much like YHWH helped the Enochian Anomaly along which may have been the only reason Noah's faith came at all. It's very important to note that YHWH just took Enoch up to heaven and started life over with Noah. The cause and effect of that could very well be profound truth that stands up to time.

    -Sab

  • cofty
    cofty

    For many melenia the words of those textbooks helped the human mind along.

    On the contrary the bible kept humans in captivity for millennia. It still suffocates the thinking and conscience of millions of bible-believing christians today.

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    On the contrary the bible kept humans in captivity for millennia. It still suffocates the thinking and conscience of millions of bible-believing christians today.

    A sword can be used to protect or to enslave. Blaming the Bible isn't an answer, it's a complaint. Every civilization that has ever existed has had an Oracle System. Verbal Oracle Systems are impossible to control on any kind of large scale, so written systems are required. To write something down in the ancient world was to make it official. That is why Jesus speaks of things "written." Everything that was written down in the Bible at one time was considered seriously official. This is because they believed in their processes just like we believe in ours.

    -Sab

  • cofty
    cofty

    Blaming the Bible isn't an answer, it's a complaint.

    Sorry I don't understand this phrase, could you elaborate briefly?

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