Hostile to atheists

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  tec

  There are many believers who think nothing more of atheists than what they present of themselves, if they think of that at all. Believe or don't believe, as you choose or see fit. For the most part, what you do shows who you are (e x ceptions being people who have been damaged by things done to them).

  Some believers are condescending to atheists, though more believers are hostile to atheists (from a world pov).

  More atheists are condescending to believers, though not as hostile.

  I personally think there are not enough atheists yet to be openly hostile to believers. But once there are, I suspect the hostility will be seen the same from both... because is more about the person than the belief/lack of belief. (again, always e x ceptions)

  Peace,

  tammy
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  tec

  It could also be that there are as many believers who are condescending to atheists. I don't know. That is not my e x perience, but my e x perience is limited, as is all of ours.

  Peace,

  tammy
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  thetrueone

  "A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something..."
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  NewChapter

  I only feel hostility when my non-belief is not respected, when reason is thrown to the wind over issues that affect me, and when believers try to limit my freedoms to fit within their mythical constructs. That's where the hostility comes from I do not care if there are nativity scenes in the square. I do not care if the 10 commandments are posted on a courthouse. Seeing such things do not affect me. HOWEVER, those actions to carry with them an underlying attitude, and they are symbolic of such, and that is when I start caring. And why must we pledge that we are 'under god' in order to be considered American?

  I am hostile when they force schools to pick up that evil abstinence only education. If religious people would teach their children life skills, instead of living in an unrealistic bubble, I guarantee the abortion rate that some are so up in arms about would go waaaayyyyy down. Yeah---I have no proof of the numbers, but my hunch tells me that atheist parents that live an evidence based life teach their children about contraception. Because ALL evidence shows that teens have sex. Also since the higher the education, the higher the number of atheists, I conclude that education is more valuable, and they know that's hard for a kid to get with a baby on a hip.

  I don't care if someone wants to pray for me---however I wish they wouldn't tell me about it. If their desire is to be supportive of me and show they are concerned for me as a person, then why the hell would they tell me they were praying for me when such a comment completely disregards who I am?

  I don't care if someone wishes me a Merry Christmas at the check out, but am SO SICK AND TIRED of listenin to the majority scream persecution and WAR ON CHRISTMAS when a retailer seeking to include everybody says Happy Holidays. Odeargod, persecution.

  I'm good with the idea of coexistence---unfortunately this is a concept that is lost on the majority of believers, and it is only the most mature and tolerant that can really live it---which in my book makes them better people and friends, so maybe all is as it should be.

  And when a serious candidate for the presidency of the United States claps for a hyperbolic, judgemental, LYING preacher who announces him by telling all who are not his brand of Christian to get out of America---my blood runs cold.

  When a sitting congressman gets up and reads from the bible and explains that is why he has no concern for the environment and climate change---I am embarrassed that we are still living in the middle ages.

  And when I hear that Oklahoma has passed laws against sharia law and using human fetuses in food (!) I have to be very concerned that the loonies are in charge.

  So yeah---there is hostility. Being surrounded by unreasonableness does that to a person.

  NC
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  thetrueone

  "You know you have created God in your own image, when you find that your God hates the same people that you do."
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  thetrueone

  "In general, higher rates of belief in and worship of a creator correlate with higher rates of homicide, juvenile and early adult mortality, STD infection rates, teen pregnancy and abortion in the prosperous democracies." — From ' Cross-National Correlations of Quantifiable Societal Health with Popular Religiosity and Secularism in the Prosperous Democracies ' a study published in the (peer-reviewed) Journal of Society and Religion , 2008.
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  Matsimus

  New Chapter, that video you posted where Santorum clapped at what that guy was saying, really scared me. It's like they have forgotten that America was built on secularism, and want to push the country back to the middle ages. If they get to power, what is then the difference between the US and Iran, where priests rule, and hang boys at the age of fifteen, since they have shown homosexual tendencies. Im glad that here in Norway, belief is still something private, and not to be pushed down on people through policies.

  It reminds me of something funny, but might be a bit offensive to believers:

  Religion is like a males genitalia,

  It's fine to have one,

  It's fine to be proud of one,

  But please don't whip it out in public, and start waving it around,

  And PLEASE don't try and shove it down childrens throats!
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  d

  "Religion is believing in fairytales for adults who do not want to have responsiblity over their lives"-d
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  NewChapter

  Matsiumus---Norway sounds like paradise.

  Yeah, they have been putting a very focused effort into taking political power here. They have redifined history and insist that this is a Christian country. It is true that the original European immigrants were chrisitian---but this was never meant to be defined as a religious country. I think if you were here exposed to our politics right now, you would be absolutely shocked. I know I am, and I grew up here.

  And as awful and intolerant as this may sound, I just want them to shut up! They have hijacked our political process, they are loud, they bully, they are fanatical, and oh so very tiring. But there are a lot of them, which makes me very sad. They push constantly, and have made a lot of progress, particularly in the states. And as the crazy, hateful, evil preacher screamed when introducing Santorum, they wish to take local, state and federal government and turn it over to god. And they mean their hateful god, not the warm squishy god of some christians.

  Embarrassing.
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  EntirelyPossible

  That is not my experience, but my experience is limited, as is all of ours.

  As I AM THAT I AM, God, YHWH, The Almight, etc., etc., I have my own experience and knowledge of all experience to draw from. These are my words, divine, holy, without error, blah blah blah, you get the idea.

  1. There aren't 10 commandments. There aren't any, in fact.

  2. Knock this shit off. Just get along. If you don't like someone or something, don't hang out with them.

  3. Persecution doesn't mean not getting your way. You like abstinence? Go for it. Others want contraception? OK. Unless they are trying to slip a rubber on your weiner while you sleep (and you object to that sort of thing) or slip birth control in your martini, let it go. Unless it's physically hurting you, you can dislike it, but it's not your problem to fix.

  4. It's OK not to believe in me. Some days I don't believe in myself. I mean, just last week I was playing golf and I had a difficult shot. I KNEW I didn't have that shot in my bag. I didn't believe in myself. I didn't die, condemn myself to hell, whatever.

  5. Some people are assholes. Notice I got no more specific than "people". Deal with that, like, I dunno, avoid them.

  There you go. That's it.

  Oh, and if you can't figure out that murder, incest, pederasty, pedophelia, etc., is wrong without me telling you, then you you need to figure out what's wrong with you.