Illegal immigrant applies to be admitted to the Florida Bar!

by moshe 62 Replies latest social current

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    I have no idea what law school you are attending. My law school continues to be in the top tier. We were taught legal concepts and social justice, besides black letter law. It was illegal to help slaves escape. Do you recall the Fugitive Slave Act? It was illegal for women to use birth control? See Griswold v. Connecticut and Roe v. Wade.

    This nation is great b/c we have had always had a vanguard pushing for improved conditions.

    I repeat my assertion that only outrage was posted. Shun me. I don't care. Competence should count. No one knows his circumstances except the individual and the relevant bar committee. The state bar officials are competent to decide what to do. I view it as a state matter since states have always regulated lawyers.

    No one here knows how old he was and what the circumstances were. Also, no one here knows what this person wrote in his supporting documents and law school application.

    There is a reason we study case law in law school rather than read Restatements of Law or Corpus Juris Secondum. Facts matter. Change the facts and the result often changes. I was taught this my very first day of law school.

    Thank goodness this will be determined by people with the competence to do so and not some folks on JW Net, a forum where people primarily disscuss Jehovah's Witnesses, not legal ethics or bar admissions practices.

    There are laws I would break with great pride. "Good Germans" watched Holocaust victims go to death camps. Not all laws are just or legitimate. I am a New Yorker more than anything else. Yes, many laws should be broken.

    I refuse to read legal briefs unless I am retained and paid a hefty fee.

    My mother was expelled from school at age fourteen b/c of flag salute. Her mother would have killed her if she saluted the flag. The law saw fit that her mother should hang around the house while my mother was on the street, trying to get any kind of work, during the Great Depression. Thus was born my interest in civil rights.

    Listening to Beatles music was prob. illegal same place.

    Fla. can clean its own house. We don't need to clean here. Send the briefs to the Fla authorities.

    I notice only one link. Something tells me more than one brief was filed.

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    P.S. I hope you were posting legal research for the lay members here. My law library has WestLaw, Lexis, FastTrack, and the standard compliment of books, periodicals, etc.

    Do people here realize that they may be breaking the law by simply having certain forms of adult pleasure? In the 1960s, someone was quite successful selling a book full of crazy laws that were still valid.

    I'm not putting immigration matters in that category.

    Fla. will be so happy to receive your legal research since no one in the entire state of Fla is competent to do it.

  • Sic Semper Tyrannis
    Sic Semper Tyrannis

    Then please do the honor of informing us what grand institution you do attend, since you've already identified it as 'top tier'.

  • Think About It
    Think About It

    Is it too much to ask that an illegal immigrant become a legal immigrant before they become an attorney in the U.S. of A?

    Think About It

  • Sic Semper Tyrannis
    Sic Semper Tyrannis

    You'd think that all immigrants would avoid the US like the plague since half the country are racists anyway.

  • Diest
    Diest

    You can almost never apply if you have overstayed your visa. You have to leave the country for a few years then come back. I would like to see a shift in immigration law to make it harder to get across the border, but at the same time helping the kids who have been here for 10-20 yers get their citizenship.

  • james_woods
    james_woods

    Note that this is not about the Dream Act, amnesty, border policy, or any of that. It is not about race or ethnicity.

    This case is simple: A person who is an illegal immigrant wants to be admitted to the Florida bar. This person DID NOT EVEN TRY to obtain legal status in the U.S. - and yet he wants to become an officer of our court system.

    This is ridiculous.

  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

    LOL! BOTR's panties are really in wad because I, a mere 2nd-year law student DARED disagree with her! ROTGLMAO!!

    I have no idea what law school you are attending. My law school continues to be in the top tier.

    I attend the University of Washington School of Law, a top 20 school (tier 1).

    We were taught legal concepts and social justice, besides black letter law. It was illegal to help slaves escape. Do you recall the Fugitive Slave Act? It was illegal for women to use birth control? See Griswold v. Connecticut and Roe v. Wade.

    As are we. In fact, the school has an incestuous relationship with the Gates Foundation. Every week we have a "Social Justice Tuesday" luncheon at which we have speakers/programs on social justice.

    I'm also 52 years old, so I have pretty balanced idea of what life is like. In addition, I am originally from California, half my family is Mexican, as is my oldest daughter, so I have an excellent understanding of the challenges facing this young man.

    And none of that changes my opinion that he should NOT be allowed bar membership. It's lawyers such as you, who can't put their emotions aside long enough to reason clearly, that are giving the whole industry a bad name.

    You know, or SHOULD know, but perhaps you haven't reasoned that far...hint...hint...that THIS case has NOTHING to do with immigration! It will not change the law...as did Griswold...because it is limited to the narrow issue of will he or will he not be admitted to the bar. IT can do NOTHING to change his immigration status! It will do NOTHING to change anyone else's immigration status. If a person or group desires to change immigration law, that person or group needs to bring forth an IMMIGRATION test case.

    You're just pissed off because I disagreed with you. You are incapable of crafting a legal argument to defend your position, so you are reduced to making catty comments concerning my school rankings and the source of the documents I posted (legal research/databases).

    I notice only one link. Something tells me more than one brief was filed.

    Well aren't you just a flippin' legal scientist. Of course, there was more than one brief filed. In fact, think about it BOTR, there are TWO sides to EVERY CASE (appellant/appellee), therefore, there are ALWAYS at least TWO briefs filed!!! ; )

    P.S. I hope you were posting legal research for the lay members here. My law library has WestLaw, Lexis, FastTrack, and the standard compliment of books, periodicals, etc.

    Tisk...tisk..even my UNDERGRAD institution carried those databases, so I'm really impressed your LAW school had those! But, yes BOTR, it is the courteous thing when posting to provide, if possible, links that people can actually access.

    Don't f*ck with me BOTR. I give you a LOT of slack because you are an experienced attorney who, if what you say is correct, did a lot of really good social work. But if you continue to come at me, I will come back at you. And your writing and legal analyses skills are not what they once were, or what you intimate they were. With ten years as a paralegal under my belt before entering law school, you wouldn't be the first arrogant, asshole attorney I put in his or her place.

    Note that this is not about the Dream Act, amnesty, border policy, or any of that. It is not about race or ethnicity.

    This case is simple: A person who is an illegal immigrant wants to be admitted to the Florida bar. This person DID NOT EVEN TRY to obtain legal status in the U.S. - and yet he wants to become an officer of our court system.

    This is ridiculous.

    Ditto.

  • botchtowersociety
    botchtowersociety

    Legal death match! Two lawyers enter, one lawyer leaves!

  • talesin
    talesin

    Stir, stir, stir the pot ... we do have some drama queens here, that's for sure. ;)

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