Illegal immigrant applies to be admitted to the Florida Bar!
by moshe 62 Replies latest social current
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moshe
Legal death match! Two lawyers enter, one lawyer leaves!
Doesn't the lawyer from Australia win?
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moshe
Unlike Band on the RUN,
I have personally been harmed by illegals taking jobs away in my trade- electrician. Contractors have actively been hiring illegals in order to maximize their profits and unfairly take work away from employers who only hire workers who have a legal right to work in the USA- The top rate of pay for this trade was $16/hr in Orlando in 1982 and today it is up to $20/hr- hasn't even kept up with the cost of living- Now, qualified electricians with 20 years experience can only find helper jobs through a temp agency for $10/hr. I refuse to work in my past trade for those wages and until such time as we have a national E-verify law the bleeding will continue for construction trades- untrained illegals have caused a lot of damage to the public from their accidents-
This is crazy- who wants to hire a lawyer who could be arrested in the middle of a court hearing by the black shirted INS-ICE agents? Do you get your retainer back?
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botchtowersociety
Contractors have actively been hiring illegals in order to maximize their profits and unfairly take work away from employers who only hire workers who have a legal right to work in the USA- The top rate of pay for this trade was $16/hr in Orlando in 1982 and today it is up to $20/hr- hasn't even kept up with the cost of living- Now, qualified electricians with 20 years experience can only find helper jobs through a temp agency for $10/hr.
Been there done that.
They'd have teams of illegals come in to work on job sites. A lot of manual pickaxe and shovel work. Mostly from the south of Mexico. Some of them barely spoke Spanish, let alone English. However, those Mexicans could outwork anyone, white or black, in the summer heat.
They were paying us electrician's helpers $9 an hour back in 1999. Then they switched us to piece work and it got even worse. I ended up getting in a fistfight with a racist supervisor and walked off the job, never to electrificate again.
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Band on the Run
I was a Root-Tilden Scholar and published member of Annual Survey of American Law at New York University School of Law. B/c of my connections and grades, I contributed research and continue to work on landmark civil rights cases before the U.S. Supreme Court. My college background involved majoring in Political Science at Columbia University, where I graduated with high honors and Distinction in Political Science.
While I was still in law school, I learned the value of using the courts to promote social change. Repeatedly, dissenting opinions become the basis for majority opinions as society changes.
The sun will rise t'm'w despite the fact that a supposed "illegal alien" is trying to be admitted to the Fla. bar. Something tells me the goal is not to practice real property of securities law. Press coverage may be sufficient now.
This is not a heart stopper. Far worse things happen routinely. The Fla. bar administration agency is perfectly competent to decide what to do without my help or the help of anyone here.
Children are starving, genital mutilation is occurring, slavery exists in this country. Our economy is horrid. All the corporate profs at NYU Law told us this could never happen again. It is.
I tire of all the supposedly "outrageous, " "shock the conscience" postings from the far right that come from only far right sources. My local newspapers only write material from press releases. PA has some senator trying to introduce a bill to stop Obamacare. It might be local news. When it is reported with no explanation of what Obamacare is or the presence of a Supremacy Clause, it sickens me. I don't read many progressive journals or web sites b/c they are simply propaganda.
My background includes being both a member of an elite and a Witness, whose family faced severe hardship from right wing forces. I am privilege but I am also aware how fleeting privilege can be. Something tells me this is not the first time this has happened. I do believe all can sleep at now. Machine guns and tanks are not needed.
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james_woods
BOTR, none of that matters.
Illegal aliens simply should not be admitted to the Florida bar, (or any other state bar association) for obvious reasons.
The primary reason is that people who are breaking the law cannot be representatives of the law.
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NomadSoul
Kind of strange that this guy brought this to the public's eyes. It seems he has some connections. I'm sure he could've found a way in through the back door.
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james_woods
Kind of strange that this guy brought this to the public's eyes. It seems he has some connections. I'm sure he could've found a way in through the back door.
The simplest way would have been to apply for citizenship. People do it all the time. This is obviously a political stunt for publicity.
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NomadSoul
No, simplest way is to get a good connection. It's call breaking the law, err loophole, people/corporations do it all the time.
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dgp
I don't live in the United States but many relatives and friends do, and most of them didn't enter the United States legally. Some of them have become legal residents and even citizens. And perhaps some of you know that I have been in strong disagreement with those of you who are against illegal aliens.
THAT SAID, I am also the son of browns of two different countries, and I have to say that in one of those two countries "south of the border", my mother, a LEGAL immigrant, who studied her career under the laws of the country, married, with a number of children, with a husband born in that country from an endless line of locals, duly authorized to practice and a LEGAL resident, could not work as a professional. No one would give her a job because she was foreign. In that country, if you are illegal and they know it, off you go. Americans are merciful in comparison. In fact, my own birth certificate states that my mother "could not prove her legal status in our country", and that simply means that she couldn't produce the card, not that she didn't have it.
In view of this, I would have trouble demanding that the United States do what at least one country "south of the border" does not do.
If the man is an illegal alien, then he can't practice law. Simple. It is true he broke the laws when he entered the country. It is true that he's not obeying the laws of the country, and he intends to work as an attorney. It would not make legal sense that he were allowed to practice. They do have to recognize him as a graduate, but that is a different matter.
Now, please don't extend that to other illegal aliens. Those have jobs because there is someone who wants to give them jobs. If Americans in general were seriously anti-immigrant, then they could do what that country south of the border does. That way you guys wouldn't have immigrants. Immigrants break the law when they enter the country (though not all of them), but they would go back if no one gave them a job. And I don't necessarily mean other immigrants.