The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith 336 Replies latest jw experiences

  • WinstonSmith
    WinstonSmith

    Well this morning I have 11 less friends on Facebook. I honestly expected more to be gone, but I am sure that it will dwindle away over the next few days. Not one of the 11 people that have unfriended me has said anything, no message, nothing, just a click to delete me from their lives.

    Remember the friend that I talked about whose son was DF’d last year? Mrs Smith got a text message last night from her and her husband that said “We are thinking of you and you are in our prayers.” We both had a chuckle at this. I guess I they are not thinking of me, and I am not in their prayers. Glad to hear that they are so sad about me dying at Armageddon!

    Mrs Smith got text message this morning from Sister T saying “Hello my sister, SO glad that you are still my sister! Our hearts are breaking so yours must be shattered. We are here for you and love you both. Let us know how we can help. I’ll be in touch as soon as I can.” Don’t you just love all the assumption? Mrs Smith replied and said “Thanks for your message. People already deleted him from Facebook without any words of confirmation which was a rude shock for me. As you know it was not an easy decision for Winston because he loves our brothers and sisters. We love you guys so much.”

    It will be interesting to see how things pan out with Sister T. She has not responded yet to my email from yesterday.

    I haven’t heard anything at all from the COBE or any of the other elders. They had their Service Meeting last night (I sent my message about halfway through) and our convention is not this weekend, but the one after so there won’t be another Service Meeting for two weeks. I’m guessing that they will announce it then. Might just have to phone in and listen to my coup de grace...

  • WishingLiz
    WishingLiz

    Hi Mr (and Mrs) Smith

    i just caught up on your journal. Wow, it's been quite a year for you. I hope you both have a wonderful time in your new location and all goes well for you. Thank you for sharing your personal experiences, it's particularly enlightening to hear from previous elders here who, like you, can enlighten us on what goes on in JC's and elders meetings.

    Thanks again.

  • tootired2care
    tootired2care

    This is one of the best threads on the whole board!

    I concur, and congrats on your DA, the letter had a nice positive tone to it. I wonder if they will really destroy your records, please keep us posted.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    Well done Winston, a well written DA letter that will be read, and will have far more effect than a long rambling one listing most of what is wrong with the WT/JW "religion" ( read property trading Scam).

    I see the rumour mill went in to overdrive straight away, no fear of the Elders keeping anything confidential, ever, is there ?

    Good luck, enjoy your new free life, and keep the Diary going !

  • Frazzled UBM
    Frazzled UBM

    I agree with those who have said this is the best thread on the forum. You and Mrs Smith are brave and inspirational. I was so touched by how you were able to bring Mrs Smith along with you. It really gives me hope.

    I feel sad for you losing your friends but were they ever really your friends? I make jibes to my wife about her hanging our with her fake friends but she doesn't get it. At least you will know now that the friends you make like you for who you are not just because you believe the same thing as they do. Friends with who you can disagree on fundamental issues and remain firm friends are the best friends you can have. I will be following your future posts with great interst. Take care

    BTW - I am also a big fan of George Orwell and immediately saw the parallels to Big Brother as I started to learn about the WBTS.

  • Listener
    Listener

    Thanks for sharing this diary with us WS. Your disassociation letter is very moving mainly due to the fact that you express your love and friendship and that you are willing to continue with this.

    Please let us know how your sister has taken this.

  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    Winston: I need to have a mental line in the sand, and s ending a letter of DA, while it does mean following their BS rules, it will provide me with that line.

    Understood! That makes sense.

    Good for you!

    Please send my love and greetings to Mrs. Smith as well.

  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    WinstonSmith: She was sorry we were so distressed but assured us that she loved us and was proud of us. She told us that the decision had to be right for us and no-one else. ... Regardless of how it affects me I am proud of you sticking up for your beliefs.”

    Your mum is an AMAZING woman! You're very fortunate.

    It's sad, this is the way it SHOULD be: a person should be free to disagree with JW doctrines yet remain if they want, or leave the religion without family ties being destroyed.

    The fact that for so many of us the religion has destroyed our family relationships is proof that JWs are a destructive cult.

  • konceptual99
    konceptual99

    Wow Winston - you've done it. I hope that there are not too many repercussions close to home with people that you want to remain in your life. It's such a shame that the WTS has cultivated this culture where relationships can be made or broken so quickly just because someone is viewed as organisationally acceptable or not.

    I know I have dropped people like a stone in the past when they have been DFed which is something I bitterly regret so I hope people that have been long standing freinds do remain at least in casual contact.

    All the best with your new life!

  • WinstonSmith
    WinstonSmith

    Hello everyone, thanks so much for your kind comments! I hope that as a community we can all continue to share and learn from our combined experiences. I appreciate you continuing to check in on the developing story. I sometimes think people might tire of my long posts and drama. It is therapeutic for me to do it though, so there will no doubt be more to come!

    It has now been a couple of days since I sent my DA letter to the elders and also to my JW friends on Facebook. The number of friends continues to drop on FB, and I still have not heard anything from the elders.

    I did however get a reply from Sister T. I had some small hope that all of the hard work and effort we had put in with her over the last year or so, along with being good friends that supported her when she got screwed by the elders might result in her wanting to keep in touch, even if it was in a surreptitious way. But sadly, no, that was not to be the case. This was her reply:

    “I love you and this breaks my heart.
    Love Jehovah and obey. I believe that you committed an act of apostasy. I know it’s what you now believe but I was stunned to see the extent of it.
    Come back one day. I’ll greet you with open arms and tears of utter joy.
    Good bye my brother.”

    So there you have it. The cult defence systems are engaged. I mulled over whether or not I should reply and in the end thought stuff it, what have I got to lose? This was my reply:

    “Hey there!

    Thanks for your message. As I said earlier, it’s all good. I figured you would say something along the lines of what you said.

    I do love Jehovah and I do obey him, but I will not and will never love and obey a group of men in New York who have spent the last 100+ years changing their minds and messing with people’s lives. Their position is unscriptural and my time as an elder exposed to me the harsh reality of what happens when humans think they can control a person’s eternal future.

    I still love you and care for you both, and will never forget all the fun and adventures we had. Good times!

    Take care, lots of love :-)

    I think what I said was fair enough. She, like most JWs, is a lovely person with some beautiful qualities. The WTS just has this knack of getting in to people’s minds and messing with them. The programming runs deep, and is difficult to undo.

    I sent an email to my sister the other day too. I honestly have no idea what her response will be.

    Mrs Smith has received some interesting messages. She / we have had no contact from anyone at all since our last meeting (the memorial back in March) and now all of a sudden they have remembered she exists. JWs only care when it is convenient for them. Here is one message, copied verbatim (except I have changed the names):

    “Mrs Smith, I asked <a friend> for your mobile number last night so I could let you know that <husband> and I are thinking and praying for you. I can only imagine the pain in your heart. And we can only guess at the overwhelming feelings of disappointment that has led Winston to disassociate himself. We pray our God Jehovah will comfort and help you be strong in your own faith. Maybe this will in turn help your husband who you love so very much. When we were in <our old> congregation, <husband> and I respected Winston and you for your endurance. We were grateful for Winston’s hard work and reasonableness. I remember at a particularly low point in our lives we chose to meet up with Winston’s witnessing group because we felt comfortable doing so. How sad we feel to know Winston has rejected what we believe in our hearts to be the organisation Jehovah is using in these last days. Even though we are imperfect. We hope Winston will not feel this way for long. Mrs Smith, I know you don’t have good health, but I would love to meet up with you and <friend> for a coffee one day. Take care my dear sister. Jehovah bless.”

    Mrs Smith forwarded the message to me with WTF? as the subject line.

    It was nice how she mentioned about how her and her husband felt about coming to my group, but wrapped up in all the other stuff kinda makes it taste bad. It is an interesting peek into the mind of a JW isn’t it?

    Do people assume that their relationship with Mrs Smith is now closer than my relationship with her? Do they think that Mrs Smith would hide these messages from me? I guess they must think that she is sitting in the corner terrified of her fire breathing apostate husband. I guess they need to keep telling themselves that what the WTS says about those who leave is true. Mrs Smith plans to regularly post pictures on Facebook of the two of us out and about having fun together.

    In the couple of days since sending the letter, I have felt great. Had two good night’s sleep, got a new bounce in my step, and the world seems to have colour again. Fading was a long tough road, and for me, cutting it off and sending a DA letter was exactly what I needed. This may not be the case for some, but I am very happy that I did. No need to look around when I’m sitting at a foodcourt just in case someone spots us and comes over to tell us they miss us and we have to lie to them, no looking furtively out the window when a car pulls up out front of our house, no more wondering who’s on the other end when my phone rings.

    Winston looked upon the situation, and he saw that it was good.

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