Faith... and Trust: The Same Things? (page 33)

Angharad

I think some people have gone overboard on the Sunny-D

shamus100

Or maybe the Sunny-D has been left in a plastic container too long and has fermented.... ;P

I try to take everyone at their word NC, that includes you. I am biased now yes, because I detest bullying, and I see it happening. Even now when everyone is being so careful to cloak their jibes, because they've gone too far too often, it's there, in full view.

EE There is no comparison, I haven't witnessed you being driven off the forum by bullying. Moreover, as I said, when I've seen you under attack on here for hypocrisy I've defended your rights, so actually I've proved your points of judgement to be unfair, by my previous actions. You've made remarks here to me tonight that aren't palatable but, hey, I haven't attacked you for it. I'm letting them go because:

1. I believe they're a side issue 2. I don't rate facetious remarks as worthy of my time and I won't justify them by defending. 3. I acknowledge that any association with AGuest means that some on here feel justified to hurl unpleasantries.

I'll be damned if I let any group/gang determine by their resultant attitudes who I can associate with. Been there, done that.

Loz x

Lozhasleft

Sorry Angharad, I hadn't seen your last post, I'm dropping this now.

Loz x

NewChapter

Sure, bullying is wrong. I didn't bully---so maybe that was meant for someone else. I haven't cloaked anything either. I committed to being more careful how I post, and I've held up to that. In some ways, it seems to make people even more jumpy, but maybe that will calm down in time.

elderelite

Admitedly ang, that was provacative on purpose. I have pm'd several times to ask what line i crossed to have my post count limited and havent recieved a response. In the absence of a even a brief explanation showing what post crossed the line im left to draw my own conclusions.

Im not asking you to have this discussion in public but a pm showing where i sinned would be greatly appreciated and allow me to have some guidance future posts.

Band on the Run

Who has the authority to declare someone a blasphemer? The terrorists on 9/11 believed they had authority. It does not mean they did.

Frankly, with the mod's decisions I see (perhaps more is happening behind the scenes), I don't care if I am kicked off.

I don't know about others but this forum seems very strange lately. The arguing is much more intense. Perhaps we need more moderating - with some equality. This seems like the American Civil War. Any interested JW would run away with revulsion. Jesus commandment was to love one another - that is how you will know the people who truly follow him. JC would not be happy with this forum.

Posting here is not like being a columnist for the New York Times or Rolling Stone.

Jesus, not whatcmacallit, said to turn the other cheek. He never said to support obvious lies and misrepresentations.

The WT makes much more sense to me than someone on this forum. Syncophant is the correct term for some. It also seems as though there is a tremendous influx of new posters. I could be wrong.

I wonder if this is a putsch to gain power here.

What is the point of engaging in any dialogue if it is all as senseless as this? Why waste your gifts here? I would admit to bad behavior on my part if I believe there would be a hint from the other side that they can be provocative. I don't engage in such controversies elsewhere. Sometimes I wonder if being a JW alters your brain chemistry permanently.

My witness is as powerful and legitimate as anyone's else witness from a whatchmacallit. My problem is not with believers. It is with one person. Do I retreat to end the arguments? I don't think it would help. Do I stay and just go bonkers with craziness? My quarrel is not with anyone's belief but on that imposition of belief on me. Something may be strike me as odd from my world view, esp. from a college educated woman. So what? They have their world view.

I can never reason with hardcore Witnesses and I ponder what is the acceptable posture (not from moderators, but form myself) when someone calls others blasphemers. All the points and counterpoints have already been made, crude and articulate. This reminds me of a play by Jean Paul Sartre, No Exit, where hell is being locked forever in a room with a few strange people.

EntirelyPossible

Or maybe the Sunny-D has been left in a plastic container too long and has fermented.... ;P

Scotch, brother. Scotch. It's the way, the truth and the light.

On the bigger issues (not how awesomely awesome Shamus and I are), perhaps a mod-led thread/discussion with Q&A, guidelines, expectations, etc., might be helpful?

Just a thought to keep anyone from getting banned, might also be an excellent chance to level-set everyone.

Final thoughts, Shamus, you sexy beast, what are you up to these days and where? We still need to be awesome, drink whisky and smoke cigars together.

EntirelyPossible

Seriously, monkey, I'll get on a plane and show up up.

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