A truce between Atheists and Non-Atheists? (page 24)

ziddina

Uhm, her post #9816 is on page #11...

Do you mean a different post?

ziddina

"Peace!

A slave of Christ,

SA (sometimes called "Scheherazade" by dear hubby - peace to you, dear one! - you know, since we're now talking about middle eastern concubines and all...)..."

Ah, that would be post #9807 on page #10...

"Scheherazade" - as in, story-teller...

Meh. I like "Shelbyisms" better... Scheherazade couldn't come up with this stuff.

elderelite

Lol well yes zid the term shelbisiums is funny ( and accurate) but its telling that her own hubby dosent take her seriously and (lovingly im sure) refers to her as a story teller.

FlyingHighNow

Since there have been billions of pages written outsode the bible i would hardly call it the collective wisdom of humankind, but i do find it quiet wise on many things, especially proverbs where that particular quote comes from :)

Well, sure, the collective wisdom is contained in many books of days of old and once and a while people still add to it.

AGuest

Well, from what I can see

Well, then, that explains a lot, Still...

What does this mean?

Actually, it was pretty elementary. Even if not, dear tec (peace to you, luv!) explained it. That you still didn't get it is... weird. To me, at least.

Are you saying that you use this forum like your own personal dinner party and some people aren't invited and should keep quiet?

No, more like dear tec's very clear translation above. See that, please. If you can see, I mean...

And that when people QUOTE you, we are hurling insults...

Ummmm... now where in the world did you get that? No, the insults have nothing to do with quoting me. I mean, if you're QUOTING me... well, doing so accurately... how can that be an insult? You never cease to amaze me, Still. Truly.

and if we don't like what you say, we can choke on it until it pleases you?

LOLOLOLOL! I'm sorry - I shouldn't laugh. But is SO funny to me that that's how you interpret what I posted. So, I'm sorry, but I just couldn't help it!

Weird!

Indeed. And just when I think it can't get any weirder. Almost every time, too!

A slave of Christ,

SA

AGuest

and if, after weighing, it is found wanting

Weighed by whom, and with whose "measuring stick"? Wait, I know: the one "we" use/accept, the one accepted by the "world." But if one is speaking pf things that is not OF the world... but of things of the SPIRIT... and of the spirit realm... then the "measuring stick" must be spiritual, as well. It can't BE of the world, at least not at first!

Unfortunately, many keep trying to measure spiritual things with a physical measuring stick, though... and then get all bent out of shape because they can't accurately "calculate" the measurement, if at all. They can't fathom that there are no literal "inches" or "centimeters" for them TO measure, TO "dissect." . And this sends them into a tizzy because THEIR brains can't even begin to fathom the "equation." And I don't mean that as a slight - I mean that literally: their brains can't "compute" it.

And so, rather than use the right TOOL to measure WITH, they not only discard the entire "project", but call for others to do the same. Even when some others are not (yet, if they ever will be) ready to throw in the towel ("YOU must throw in your towel, because I have thrown in mine!"). Some metaphorically run a sweeping hand over the table and upset ALL of the pieces... because they don't perceive the "game" being "played" THEIR way. And, yet, they claim it's not even their game, not one they even have interest in learning, let alone playing! So, let's just tip the whole game over... for everyone. I don't like the game, don't wanna play... so NO ONE can play!

This is a very curious phenomenon, in light of what some of these same folks say about science... and how conclusions are reached/theories are "proven." From what I understand (and I could be wrong; I have been before), simply because one scientist concluded... perhaps for himself, perhaps for the world... that a component of a theory was wrong, doesn't mean all other scientists have to end their search for a conclusion to other components. To the contrary, my understanding is that not only do the others continue THEIR work... but he might continue, as well, perhaps on a different component.

Einstein believed that E=MC 2 ... and got there by proving/disproving components until it could stand alone. But even science didn't stop there; indeed, my understanding is that science has attempted to continue past that. Far past that, actually. Not to say that there is anything past that but many believe there is... and that finding that thing will change virtually everything (or a great many things, important things) they THINK they know NOW.

Of course, there are some who believe E=MC 2 IS the "end"... and so stop there. And these are, perhaps, short-sighted. There are others, however, who believe it isn't... and continue their [re]search past that point, to an even more minute equation. Do they run into other researchers "labs" and throw over the tables when they reach their own conclusions? Do they follow Dr. Nerdie around, chiding him, belittle him, saying things like "Nerdie, you're an idiot, and your ideas are idiotic, and you need to stop discussing them with folks because, based on MY experiences and MY conclusions I don't believe them"?

Why can't that be the same here, that some have reached their OWN conclusions re faith... and as a result have decided to stop there... but others have decided to go further and seek out even more... mmmmm... "elegant" truths?

Don't have the desire... energy... or faith... to go further? Then by all means, stop... wherever YOU need to do so. But how is it you feel it is within YOUR power to stop OTHERS from going further? What IS that? I will tell you: it is nothing more than the usual attempt of this world's usual suspects... to control the CHOICES of others.

Wake up, dear ones. You've been down that road, with others making choices... especially SPIRITUAL choices... FOR you. That road is broad... and spacious... and you'll find many on it: non-believers... as well as "believers." Choose... for yourself.

May you have ears to hear and get the sense of that truth.

Again, peace to you all!

A slave of Christ,

SA

ShirleyW

Shelby, you're on fire already this mornin' girl !

Up and rarin' to go!

AGuest

Ahh, dear Miz Shirl (peace to you, chile'!)... I mean, this life is way too short to wake up moanin' and groanin'... and conceding one's "spark" and "joie di vive"... just because a few... mmmm... naysayers happen to be in existence. SEIZE the day, I say! EACH day!

Okay, now back to the scheduled program... of whether there can be a truce, and if so how/the terms, etc. Unless someone turned off the TV. I mean, I know some may have changed the channel... but all we gotta do is grab that "clicker" and change it right back. I'm willing...

Peace, luv!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

SA

palmtree67

Okay, now back to the scheduled program... of whether there can be a truce, and if so how/the terms, etc. Unless someone turned off the TV. I mean, I know some may have changed the channel... but all we gotta do is grab that "clicker" and change it right back. I'm willing...

No, I think we've gotten a few contructive ideas here. Whether people want to apply them or not, is up to them.

And also it's pretty much been de-railed with trivial minutia from a few whose aim was to de-rail......

So, the thread is all your's, Shelby! Have at 'er!

tec

Palm, I do not know how you got what you got from what i said regarding Q.

I merely wondered why it is okay for those who usually agree with Q (and very often say GREAT post, Q)... but for people to agree with, say, Aguest... then those people are called 'followers'.

It had nothing really to do with Q's words applying to only one side. In fact, I also agreed with Q's (second?) point earlier in the thread.

Peace,

tammy

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