Please worship our god or he will kill you!

by snare&racket 140 Replies latest jw experiences

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    Somewhere down the line it was beleived that preaching with fear was a valid method and maybe one time it was.

    To many the end justifies the means and if one can use fear to bring a person to salvation, isn't it worth it" isn't it ok?

    The answer of course is NO.

    God wants people to come ot Him out of love, not fear.

  • BlindersOff1
    BlindersOff1

    *** w93 10/1 p. 19 par. 14 "Search Through Me, O God" ***
    There are billions of people who do not know Jehovah. Many of them in ignorance practice things that God's Word shows to be wicked. If they persist in this course, they will be among those who perish during the great tribulation. Yet, Jehovah takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked, nor should we

  • Londo111
    Londo111

    It really isn't Good News.

  • Tiktaalik
    Tiktaalik

    PSac >> God wants people to come ot Him out of love, not fear.

    Every religion uses the this same basic coercive threat to gull people into becoming worshipers. Despite your spin PSac, the result is still the same. You can window dress it as love but ultimately it is still grounded in fear. The message is still the same: worship god how I/we tell you or you die/go to hell etc.

    I guess the thing that make JWs stand out from the pack on this one is the rest of the Christian religions believe they're all going to heaven away from the carnage. JWs are gonna be right here among all the bodies and man there's gonna be a lot of bodies!

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento
    Every religion uses the this same basic coercive threat to gull people into becoming worshipers. Despite your spin PSac, the result is still the same. You can window dress it as love but ultimately it is still grounded in fear. The message is still the same: worship god how I/we tell you or you die/go to hell etc.

    I guess the thing that make JWs stand out from the pack on this one is the rest of the Christian religions believe they're all going to heaven away from the carnage. JWs are gonna be right here among all the bodies and man there's gonna be a lot of bodies!

    I don't know if EVERY religon does that but Christianity is certainly guilty of it, yes.

  • Londo111
    Londo111

    I don’t agree that all religions or all Christian denominations are like this. As pointed out above, cults and fundamentalists use this message. Fear and guilt are powerful tools in their hands.

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    Christian universalisim preaches that ALL will restored in realtionship with God.

    Christian inclusivism states that non-christians can be saved in Christ.

  • cofty
    cofty
    I don’t agree that all religions or all Christian denominations are like this - Londo

    Apart from Universalists, please tell me a christian sect that doesn't preach god will bless the faithful and punish the rest.

  • tec
    tec

    Certainly the message in the OP is one of fear and certainly NOT good news. That in itself might be a clue that this is not the message Christ preached. More than just christians (brothers of Christ) are invited into the Kingdom. These ones are known by Christ, even if they might not have known Him.

    Peace,

    tammy

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    Its about interpretaion as usual.

    Those thet believe in universalisim and inclusivisim do so because of passages such as these:

    "He who is not against me is for me." [Original]"for whoever is not against us is for us." (NIV) Gospel of Mark 9:40.

    "Everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but those who blaspheme against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven." Luke 12:10.

    • "He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9 (NIV)
    • "That was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world." John 1:9 Similarly Titus 2:11 says, "The grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men."
    • God loved the entire world and Jesus came to save it, not condemn it (John 3:16, 17.)

    The parable of the sheep and the goats (Matthew 25:31-46) portrays the judgment of the nations as being based on each individual's compassion on others, not on their religious background. The blessings pronounced upon the poor in spirit, the meek, the merciful, the peacemakers, those hungering for righteousness, etc. (Matthew 5:3-10) can also be understood as applying without reference to religion. Similarly, James 1:27 says, "Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world

    and so forth

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