by OUTLAW 447 Replies latest watchtower scandals
Cedars...so you do care about language in this situation?? LOL!
Don't you realise the real problem??? OK! You will get one more opportubity to get it; Cedars, give us your real name! Don't be a coward....some 1000 people have been outed, so it's no problem if one more is outed! So, please, give us your name.
Whether you`ve been here or not under another name,your still on my thread..
Telling me I`m barging in on my own thread,is friggin stupid..
As for "ooh, without this thread, the true story would never have come out"..
This is the thread Juan Viejo made the Official AWAA Statement on..
So this is where the AWAA`s side of the story came out..
Juan Viejo openly said there was AWAA members who made referels..
AWAA admits to screwing up,so thats no longer in Question..
You're still perpetuating a false narrative even in the above post, when you say
"Now can anyone find out which non-AAWA member outed all those people?".....Again it was an AWAA Member
There was a Big concern about a non AWAA member who outed people.
Thats what I`m addressing a,non AWAA member..We already know AWAA members screwed up..
They admited it..
So you don`t need to be dragging us back to information we already know..
What wasn`t known, was who the non AWAA member was..
JWN posters wanted to know..
Now anyone can access that information by contacting the AWAA..
Your not going to acomplish anything by Ranting on this Thread..
If you want a discussion with the AWAA and AWAA policies..
Go to the AWAA and discuss it with them..
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...OUTLAW
Dismissing Servant
Cedars...so you do care about language in this situation?? LOL!
Don't you realise the real problem??? OK! You will get one more opportubity to get it; Cedars, give us your real name! Don't be a coward....some 1000 people have been outed, so it's no problem if one more is outed! So, please, give us your name.
You are yet again dodging my question, which is pivotal to the whole issue.
Cedars
I don't understand why this is a problem: NAME THE PERSON AND BE DONE WITH IT !!!
Why can't that be done? I'm hoping it's not because it was an official representative that did it. I think this is the real issue: people are losing trust because it doesn't *feel* like they have been told the truth (whether they have or have not in reality).
Wouldn't naming the person be the easiest thing? Out them ... after all, what's good for the goose ...
Ceders Yes - calm heads would be good, but I'm sure you can appreciate why people are upset - I don't think people are bashing for the sake of bashing. These are people that value their privacy and anonymity (as you do also, no one has the right to demand you expose your identity either) so I'm sure you can appreciate why they are upset. There have been a number of explanations as far I can see but some things seem to be contradicting others and it is very confusing so people are just trying to understand what has happened - and also whether they are still at risk of further unwanted exposure.
Angharad
Yes - calm heads would be good, but I'm sure you can appreciate why people are upset
I'm trying to deconstruct all this without being overwhelmed by emotion.
So far, there is no evidence that being a member of our group, even if made a member against your will, shows up on your facebook page to a non-member - which is surely the whole issue.
If someone can prove me wrong I would be happy to take that evidence back to AAWA's board.
Cedars
Cedars,
1) Well, it happened to Rebel8. Soooo I'm gonna say yeah, clearly it could happen. Not to mention, if you read what I posted, I've already said two or three times now that I had non-ex-JW Facebook friends who were not added to the group check my timeline before I left the group to see if the name showed up. They said YES. The name itself showed up ("Fizzywiglet has joined such-and-such group").
2) Even if it couldn't/shouldn't show up, it's unethical to force-add people. Your coordinator DID force-add people, she force-added a LOT of people, and it's become clear over the past several days that a huge chunk of those people had no idea they were force-added, were not notified by Facebook or did not see the notification, and are still members. Now that you are aware they were added without permission, you don't get to presume that they want to be a member unless they figure it out.
3) Since someone force-added 1,000 people, and now you're trying to say they could have been referred from other ex-JW FB groups, who's to say they didn't force-add people masquerading as ex-JWs, who they believed to be ex-JWs? We already know there are JWs who do that, start a mole FB account, join ex-JW FB boards, and collect apostate names, and then publish them on sites like "Apostate Watchdog". Now they're very possibly inside your "secret" group, and they can see names of 1,000 people who did not necessarily consent to having their name affiliated with that group. If an "out" ex-JW makes an informed decision to put their name on your group, secret or not, that is one thing. But it is not your place to decide that for them.
fizzywiglet
Well, it happened to Rebel8. Soooo I'm gonna say yeah, clearly it could happen.
That's not evidence.
We've already apologized for what happened before.
We need to know, does group membership NOW show up in someone's profile or newsfeed if a non-member is viewing it?
Cedars
Cedars,
Now you are playing that you are dumber than the GB 2.0!
zed
This is just pathetic! Ceeeedars, wake up! Do you get the point that more than 1000 names have been outed? Is this a problem? If not, then give us your name!
Don't hide behind the fact that some stupid christian idiot hi-jacked some 1000 names. The group is responsable for letting that christian idiot in. The group is responsible for that any member could add some 900-1000 people.
So be wise and reasonable. Delete that fucking group and start a new one! It's done in less than one minute.
