I'm saying that let's say there is evidence that someone killed a guy. He does have the gun in your hand, only one other person is in the room and he is deceased and you walk in and say, what happened? He tells you I just killed a man. I obviously will take him at his word and charge him accordingly. Now....the same scenario and guy says it wasn't me, then you build a case to support that he indeed did kill, get all the forensics and proofs and evidence and follow thru.
Boston bomb investigators kill Florida man
by Simon 162 Replies latest members politics
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Simon
I have personally seen and experienced Police corruption.
it happens. And usually it is all about social status.
If your not in the club, your out, simple.
There is corruption everywhere, it's all coming out in the open now, it is ibvious to everyone what is going on.
worse it is going to get, and it is very scary.
people who haven't lived it and have no experience of it, haven't got a Fks notion what it is really like.
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Simon
>> what strong procedures and controls do you want to see, exactly?
The ones we already have that serve us well before politicians opted for power and convenience. We dont need law enforcement serving as judge, jury and execution with no control. Proper due process.
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Simon
This is still unravelling ...
Law enforcement officials are now unsure of what spurred the killing of Ibragim Todashev, or if he was ready to confess to his role with deceased Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev in a 2011 triple murder.
On May 22, Todashev, the mixed-martial-arts fighter, was shot to death while being interviewed by an FBI agent and other law enforcement officials.
According to The Atlantic, two of three officials who spoke anonymously to the Associated Press on Wednesday, are no longer standing by their original statements that Todashev lunged with a knife at an FBI agent who had come to question him in his Orlando-area home about his association with Tsarnaev.
Questions have also risen over reports that Todashev was going to sign a confession stating that he aided Tsarnaev murder two Boston-area Jewish men, Erik Weissman and Rafael Teken, and one of Tsarnaev’s close friends, Brendan Mess. Friends of Todashev told the Orlando Sentinel that he was told by the FBI, who had been in contact with Todashev two days after the Boston bombings, that he was going to be cleared this week.
Todashev’s estranged wife, Reniya Manukyan told the Wall Street Journal that in previous FBI interviews, Todashev never discussed the 2011 murder. “Everything was about the bombing and about him knowing Tamerlan,” said Mankyan, who was also interviewed by the FBI. “They would show me a picture of Tamerlan or Tamerlan’s wife or some other guys that I haven’t a clue who they are, but nothing about a murder—nothing ever.”
An FBI team from Washington, D.C., arrived on Thursday to begin a formal investigation into Todashev’s death.
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designs
Now other FBI have to interogate the first set of FBI and the assorted other Law Enforcement because their story keeps changing
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sammielee24
You guys are off on this point that cops don't question you if they already have evidence to tie you to murder. That is laughable and ignorant.
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Nobody says they don't question you - they don't saunter off to your house, six of you armed, let you keep a knife in your hand, stand around, drink tea and then chat nicely after telling you they have hard evidence of your part in a triple murder.
They have the kind of evidence they need to question you more, they pick you up and take you down to the station where you can be questioned more and you know why? Because now stations have video and audio of these proceedings to avoid any legal issues - they aren't getting you to sign a confession in your house - they do it in a station with full scope of legal parameters so they can avoid this sort of thing. So now there are no witnesses except other cops inside your house but you are dead - you can't talk and defend yourself.
What is laughable and sadly ignorant, is your refusal to acknowledge that there just might be more to this than was told by the cops right after the shooting. The story keeps changing but you hold fast to your belief that the guy must have been guilty or they wouldn't have shot him - you have decided the victim deserved to die based on what you've been told in the media by a group of officials who are now rolling back their story and saying they don't know why the guy was shot.
If the guy was involved and there was evidence to support that - I'm all for bringing him into the station and questioning him. Let him have his lawyer. Let it be recorded. Nothing fishy, he gets his day.
Lets just say Minimus has been alledged to be involved in an armed robbery. Alledged. You insist you are innocent. Six armed cops show up at your house to 'question' you. You let them in. Scared you? Not likely cos you say you are innocent. The door shuts. An hour later, they take you out dead and a statement is read that you Minimus were shot and killed because you lunged at a cop.
What would you like us to believe? You did it? Would you have rather gone down to the station so there was some witness to your interrogation or confession? Would you like us to investigate the life of Minimus or shrug and walk away because you are just another thug loser and deserved to get shot?
sammieswife
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minimus
I like clint eEastwood.
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Simon
>> clint eEastwood
Is that the electronic version of Clint Eastwood? Like eMail ...
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Simon
Yes, they announced all over the news about the guy lunging with a knife and confessing to a muder. Now we're finding out that neither of these are likely to be true and yet they have got the message out they wanted to and no one questions anything.
I watched V for Vendetta last night ... it's spot on how governments can manipulate things and the sheeple sleepwalk into a police state.
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minimus
Sounds just like the Obama administration's tactics quite frankly. Benghazi is a lot worse.