Why won't JWs have "civilized" debates with home owners?

by ilikecheese 73 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • 2+2=5
    2+2=5

    The mentality of JWs is like this; If someone wants to debate the WT doctrine, they are not being honest with themselves and they are not humble enough to learn the truth. They believe that there is no such thing as reasonable objections to their religion, the problem is always the householders.

    The JW then concludes that the householder is not worthy of life, and will soon be executed at Armageddon.......move on to the next door.....we need some vulnerable victims.

  • HarryMac
    HarryMac

    The JW then concludes that the householder is not worthy of life,

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    'The Holy Spirit never lies'

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    Since JWs already have all the answers to every question, why listen to what anyone else has to say?

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    The line in the Kingdumb Misery example presentation says it all:

    [allow for comment]

    1. How gracious they are to allow you to say something on your own doorstep!

    2. They dont LISTEN

    3. As one dub told a call "we are not here to debate we are here to preach." In other words they are not remotely interested in what you have to say.

    4. They are, as pointed out, incapable of reasoned logical debate, even of holding on to one subject to discuss.

    HB

  • blondie
    blondie

    Most jws are not equipped to answer questions beyond what they are fed at the meetings. Many questions from people at the door have been discussed in a QFR over the years but jws hardly read the study articles let alone anything else. Some jws knowing they are out of the element say they will go, research and come back sometimes with an elder. But they never came back. Even if they were sincere, the elder would talk them out of it, dangerous apostates, either directly or were reading apostate literature.

    I talked to some non-jws, started a study, and they planted they first question that made me really start thinking. How can we prove that Jesus is Michael the Archangel?

    Seems simple.

    *** it-1 p. 156 Archangel ***

    The prefix “arch,” meaning “chief” or “principal,”implies that there is only one archangel, the chief angel; in the Scriptures, “archangel” is never found in the plural. First Thessalonians 4:16, in speaking of the preeminence of the archangel and the authority of his office, does so in reference to the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ: “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.” It is, therefore, not without significance that the only name directly associated with the word “archangel” is Michael.—Jude 9; see MICHAEL No. 1.

    *** g02 2/8 p. 17 Who Is Michael the Archangel? ***

    The Bible describes Michael as the archangel, implying that he alone bears that designation. Hence, it is reasonable to conclude that Jehovah God has delegated to one, and only one, of his heavenly creatures full authority over all other angels.

    While there is no statement in the Bible that categorically identifies Michael the archangel as Jesus, there is one scripture that links Jesus with the office of archangel.

  • cha ching
    cha ching

    My husband & I would always have long discussions with people, in past years, about "hell", Jehovah's name, and on and on...

    We did study, and truly wanted to "help people."

    Me personally? in the last years that I went in service, I didn't think it was right to make people mad, so if something was upsetting, or getting that way, I would wish them a good day & leave. Perhaps I was on the verge of a fade. I did not want to make my life or anyone else's upset, and thought "love" would go a lot farther.

    My husband would have long discussions with ministers, and they got along quite amicably. He respected their viewpoint. He valued "mildness & deep respect."

    (1 Peter 3:15) 15 But sanctify the Christ as Lord in YOUR hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone that demands of YOU a reason for the hope in YOU, but doing so together with a mild temper and deep respect.

    Why can't the "organization" apply this scripture?

    Instead, they call people names.... that is all the GB has to do: Call you a name, label you, & that will justify their actions.

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    Dubs have no boundries. They walk up to strangers homes, and drop these hate mags off. Is it a wonder that people have had enough and object to the intrusion? There is no "discussion" unless it's to place a mag. It's all a sham anyways because if they were really interested in reaching people. It would be through the media. It's just a scam to sell mags to it's own people who pay for them because they couldn't place them. And to keep the avg dub focused on the work rather than their own lives, or improving it

  • a watcher
    a watcher

    We're not there to debate with householders.

    We're searching for Jehovah's lost sheep.

    If you don't want to serve Jehovah with us, then you're not who we're looking for.

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    I'll be happy to serve Jehovah with u. Simply point out the scripture that I'm to place magazines at doors, and keep my time and report it as a sign of my spirituality

  • VM44
    VM44

    The JWs that go to people's doors are salespeople!

    They are there to sell their religious PRODUCT!

    Nothing else matters.

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