UnclePenn1:
: UH, I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure AM is not a Christian Alan. Have you read any of his posts?
Indeed I have. Apparently you have not, at least, not with understanding, because his post above confirms that he claims to be a Christian. Besides, no one but a braindead Fundy would strongly support the argument that "1X1X1=1" is evidence for the Trinity, and then object when the idea is clobbered.
: P.S. What is a Fundy? Cause, if it means someone who loves Jesus and loves and honors God, then take a big ol' stamp and mark it right across my forehead.
There are many species of Fundies. There are Christian ones, Islamic ones, Hindu ones, etc. All have one thing in common: a singularly braindead devotion to a religion or to a religious book or, most often, their interpretation of a religious book, such that they throw away reason, common sense and common decency. This devotion shows that their beliefs are based mostly on blind emotion, not on reason.
For example, there are decent Moslems and there are Fundamentalist Moslems. The latter are comprised of people like Osama bin-Laden, the Ayatollah Khomeini, and their fanatical, suicidal followers.
There are also decent Christians and there are Fundamentalist Christians. The difference between them is the degree of fanaticism and devotion to reason. Fundamentalist Christians invariably believe the interpretation of their religious leaders of the Bible over reason, facts and common sense. For example, they tend to be young-earth creationists, whether of the six-literal-day variety or the Jehovah's Witness creative-day-equals-7000-years variety. They are singularly insulated from the scientific fact that the earth and life upon it have been around for billions of years.
There are many, many Christians who love Jesus and who honor God; I count among my closest friends such people. None of them are Fundamentalists in the sense described above, even though some are Evangelicals and believe most of the things that are set forth in books like the classic The Fundamentals.
In sum, to me, the most useful notion about Fundamentalism is that it is a mindset, not a belief system, and so that is what I mean by "Fundy". It is the mindset of the cultist.
Dungbeetle:
Your comments are on the money. Lowlife trolls like WhizBrain, who "kick the cyber-s**t" out of people who are down just for fun, deserve no quarter, and they won't get it from me. Anyone who listens to their hypocritical bleatings of "why am I being beat on?" is a moron.
Your comments on whether the scriptures require belief in the Trinity are well taken. Only Fundies like the JWs and certain of the posters in this thread make belief or non-belief in this fuzzy doctrine a litmus test for Christianity.
jerome:
Your thread has been invaded by certain braindead people who refuse to deal with reasoned arguments and substitute stupidity and various forms of name calling for it.
Your comments on the Trinity are right on, and are exactly the point of my first post.
Apostate Man:
You claim you weren't raised in a CULT, but your actions prove that you're a Fundy and a cultist, as I've described above. But you know perfectly well what I meant, and so your whinings that you're not part of a CULT are just as misleading as are the whinings of the Watchtower when they claim they're not a cult. We know different.
As for how many Gods there are, the Bible is clear: One.
Now let's try for the thousandth time: sensibly define the mathematical operation of "multiplication of gods".
AlanF
