bigmac,
Thank you so much for your reply. That is really interesting that one can be born to believers but never believe themselves. Its nice to get to know a little more about you
70wks...
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bigmac,
Thank you so much for your reply. That is really interesting that one can be born to believers but never believe themselves. Its nice to get to know a little more about you
70wks...
cantleave-you said in post number 7 in 2009.
I do have a good grounding in science, but my scientific curiosity has strengthened my belief in a creator and that is why I stayed a Witness for so many years.
That has really answered my question, sorry for getting you to repeat yourself but going through more than 11500 posts can be laborious, happily post number 7 answered my question.
So I can say that I my view today, is the same as your statement 4 yrs ago.
If you hav already taken the time to answer while I have been writng this response, my apologies.
70wksfyrs: We should always do what we feel is right for us. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't agree at all. We may need to examine what we feel is right. It may be wrong. That's how most of us got here. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I was a believer as a JW and later as a born-again.
I am now convinced there is no god and no supernatural realm of any sort. These are just placeholders for questions we don't have naturalistic answers to yet.
The question of evil and the hiddeness of god are two of the reasons I reject theism. Science makes the need for a creator obsolete.
OTWO,
Ok you do make a good point, we should do what we feel is right for us, after we have examined it, and we do not hurt others in doing what is right for us as that is not showing kindness or being just.
70wks...
cofty,
Thanks for your comments, welcome to this thread. I am having a good day today, so bring it on, you don't need to be kind today. I can handle it. j-nat thinks I have it going on. Let's have some fun!
Science makes the need for a creator obsolete.
Oh really!!! Is that a fact or just your opinion? Your comment is unsubstantiated can I have something a bit more specific to back this up please
70wks, take care with taking "what feels right" as good enough to set your world view. You can't then switch to "prove it" when someone states that science makes the need for a creator obsolete.
In Genesis we have "God created the heavens and the earth." Now we have the big bang. Finger of God not needed.
On one of the days all the fish of the sea, the birds in the air, and all the creeping things on the earth were created. Now we have the tree of life. All living things are connected to a common ancestor. It's not a magic-wand-waving sort of event. Finger of God not needed to explain this.
It was never a magic-wand-waving sort of event.
Science simply explains the process. People just did not understand the science, and so feared that it contradicted God in some way. But it never has. True, that science and God sometimes seem to be in conflict... but that is because man has misunderstood science or God, or both, at any given time.
To the OP, there are two parts to this question you have asked... do you believe in the existence of God, and do you believe IN God (as in put your faith IN Him)?
Yes to both.
I always believed in God; He was always present; always here. I believed in Christ from the truth I heard from Him in his teachings (through his words and his deeds), and someone who speaks such truth does not have lies in him... so that He also spoke the truth of His Father. So I came to know God, by knowing Christ.
Christ then, is the basis of my faith. He is alive and He does speak as the Spirit. That has strengthened my faith so that I may know Chirst and God, as any who go to Christ may do.
Peace,
tammy
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