When I was growing up, my parents studied with me out of the red youth book that links msturbation to homosexual, and also the blue YPA book. I discovered masturbation pretty much by accident, but started to feel the guilt, but it didn't stop me! Lol. I too promised God that I wouldn't do it for a month, week, etc but I always gave in. Eventually I just gave into it and my prayers pretty much stopped because of the guilt. I also never told my parents about this like the pubs say to, too embarrassing. Imagine telling someone who just went through puberty not to masturbate! All sexual release is satanic and bad and sinful. No wonder so many JW couples are so fucked up sexually.
How did all that anti-masturbation talk affect you?
by rebel8 91 Replies latest members adult
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flipper
REBEL 8- Well, it didn't stop me from masturbating at all as a teenager. I always knew it was something natural that males & females did as normal humans with needs- I didn't feel guilty at all - still don't. It's only idiot religions like Jehovah's Witnesses calling it " self abuse " that gives masturbation negative connotations and meanings. The reason JW's and other religions are so screwed up in their views of sex is because they are so sexually repressed in my opinion. The more they repress sex- the more sexual perverts it creates within those organizations because they paint sex as something " dirty ", " sinful ", or " bad " - when in fact it's a very beautiful thing. Freaks. peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Band on the Run
This shows how old I am. I don't recall any masturbatory talks or literature. We just heard about fornication. I vividly recall a lecture on dating and marriage. The brother reasoned that it is impossible to love someone you date. Marriage must exist for love to exist. It made no sense to me.
I imagine WT officials wanted masturbation as the problem in my KH. We had so many teens disfellowshiped for sexual immorality. There would three and four at a time. The older Witnesses would scream out in utter horror. "OH, NO!" Perhaps these teens were too candid with the brothers. Baptized at ten. Model Witnesses at 13. Expelled at fourteen. There had to be pregnancies, too. It wasn't my crowd.
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yadda yadda 2
Never remember anything said from the platform about it, just what it said in the Youth book. I noticed about a year or two after I'd started masturbating that it was never specifically mentioned in the Bible and feeling really puzzled about that since I'd read it was really common (I think the Youth Book says something like 99% sexually males and 94% females do it, or something like that). I think just knowing that statistic erased most of the guilt. I thought "why would Jehovah make us so everyone is masturbating if it it's so bad?" I also read in a worldly sex book in my mid-teens that it's only harmful if you feel really guilty about it, so I decided from then to no longer feel guilty about it. I did once go 5 months without a wank, believe it or not, when single on holiday overseas and pioneering during a particularly 'spiritual' time in my JW life in my twenties, trying to uber please Jehovah n all. I was going up the wall in the end trying to hold out with every day being a battle with my raging hormones.
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Julia Orwell
It's terrible how jw religion and so many others too distort and dirty sex. I was a virgin at 30 on my wedding night, and I think that was a good thing because I made a decision and proudly stuck to it. I was a virgin by choice. But nearly three years later, it's still hard to shake the uptightness of jw attitude towards sex and just go with it. If the wt never went on and on about it, it would just be normal like anything else, albeit practiced responsibly.
But as George Orwell once noted, bottling down some powerful urge like sex is necessary for totalitarianism because it creates tension that can be funneled into the regime's activities. Think about it: if you are at ease and settled within yourself, why would you get excited about something stupid like the latest tract campaign or co visit? If you're content within yourself you don't need external things to make you happy. All this pioneering, tract campaigns, assemblies and constant meetings is just sex gone sour.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
I'm with the group of guys that did it and suffered from all the guilt. I did the prayer thing, but Hojovah couldn't stop the male hormones. If sky-daddy couldn't fix it, what was the point of confessing to someone for "help"? And all the WT recommendations for fighting "self-abuse" was worthless. The urge comes regardless of what I wear or what position I sleep in bed. Frankly, it was like being hungry. When you're hungry, you think about food and eating. There's only one way to make that obsession with food and hunger go away... eat. The only way to really get rid of the desire and all those thoughts was to manually drain the prostate sometimes. Oh, there were those times when I put up the "fine fight", because the Youth book said that wet dreams would do the job. I don't know how that worked for you other guys, but it was terrible trying to hide boners all the time.
So I should have gotten married and it all would have been taken care of, right?
Wrong. I was quite young when I learned all about the unhappiness of many JW marriages. The problems included sexual issues. As I got older, with more responsibilities, and hearing more problems, I didn't see marriage as much of a source of happiness or satisfaction. Married guys masturbated too. And when their wives caught them masturbating, all hell broke loose. One of the strangest was a sister that divorced her husband because "he committed adultery in his heart."
So, it was terrible being single and the thought of marriage was terrible. Then I realized the problem--being a JW was terrible.
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Julia Orwell
Good story Billy. Yeah, jw religion has a way of ruining everything. Marriage can and should be where you can truly be yourself with someone you love but the wt drives a wedge between husbands and wives. Mind you, if I caught my hubby masturbating I would be offended, and feel that he should come to me for that or bad that I couldn't satisfy him. I like to think I can, but who really knows? What I've learned from these types of discussions on JWN is that husbands routinely lie to their wives about masturbation and what they need. I like to think my husband is honest with me all the time but I've learned here that guys aren't.
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Satanus
A jw who was a bit older than me, we did a lot of things together and w others jws. Anyhow, the guy was an elder and got married. Surely, a jw in that position would be able to give some sage advice for control. His sage advice was, 'take the bull by the horns'. End of advice. It wasn't many yrs later that i bailed off the wt ship.
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quellycatface
I don't think ANYONE has the right to tell others what they do in private. Next, it'll be don't pick your nose or something such.
My son is of the age when he has started to masturbate. Poor little honey. He talks to his Dad about it. It happens, it's part of growing up and having hormones. He just being a boy. A guilt trip is NOT the way to deal with it.
I think it's disgraceful that they bring these subjects up at the KH, then complain that society wants our kids to grow up too fast.!! Hypocrites.
A big bird to all you dickheads at the WTBATS. Shame on you.