Watchtower Media preps for Dateline!

by Dogpatch 65 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • sunscapes
    sunscapes

    Is she a JW "Doctor (yeah right)" ?

  • sf
    sf

    It's contained in this thread:

    < http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=28397&site=3

    Thanks again, sKally

    oh, and if i view what you just posted above right now, i might regergitate my awesome mexican dinner i just had. i'll wait a few, then past it in yahoo too to get reactions.


    Too many 'lambs'!

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    I wonder if someone can do a WT CD rom search to see if this issue was ever brought up in the Awake! Or WT twenty years ago........
    (like Watching the World...blasting other religions for this....)

    Even if this is not the case, I know that sexual trauma has been documented in many different ways since the 1800's.

    Sports Fans, This is rationalization at its best.....

  • Dawn
    Dawn

    blaaaaaaaghhhhhhk - I think I'll puke!

  • herbert
    herbert

    ThiChi,

    Good thinking! The last quote below is part of a whole series on molestation. It's ridiculous to say that people didn't know it was harmful 20 years ago.

    Also, this woman seems somehow to be connected strongly with the Catholic Church.

    herbert

    *** g80 3/8 30 Watching the World ***
    Churches Pushing Porn?

    <G<รท>G> The Methodist Board of Discipleship recently ruled that 10 films intended for sex counseling could continue to be used for limited audiences. But a dissenting member of the Board commented: "The films were not, nor were the [sex counseling] forums, biblically based. The films showed men and women through the act of masturbation, and they also showed male and female homosexuality. Each one of these movies was from beginning to end-from the point of undressing to the point of climax." Methodist Minister Ted McIlvenna of San Francisco, who made most of the films, defended them, noting that they "were shot and produced by Methodist ministers." About 78,000 persons are said to have seen the explicit movies in the past seven years.

    A book titled "The Sex Atlas," produced by an official publishing arm of the Episcopal Church, is being sharply criticized by two Episcopal priests who feel that "it seems to be an apology for any aberrant sexuality." Among other things, they point to passages in the book that seem to minimize child molestation and sex with animals. The book says that molested children may be more "disturbed by adult hysteria about a gentle and friendly 'child molester'" than by the molestation itself. Also, it predicts that in the future "our society will be much less preoccupied with sexual contact between humans and animals. After all, as long as the animal is not hurt or mistreated, there is no need for social interference." Apparently this religious publishing house does not consider God's opinion on such matters to be relevant.-Ex. 22:19.

    *** g81 2/8 18 Incest-The Hidden Crime ***
    One incest victim recommended teaching children at an early age that certain parts of their bodies are not for others to play with. This can be done in a loving way, perhaps using the story of Dinah, in the publication My Book of Bible Stories. Then, if anything resembling molestation should occur, the child can immediately tell mother or father. Remember, sexual molestation does not have to be intercourse. Fondling, "touching," unwarranted intimacy or any sexual playing can cause great damage in later life.
    *** g85 1/22 3 Child Molesting-Every Mother's Nightmare ***
    Child Molesting-Every Mother's Nightmare

    FOR the young mother, it was a nightmare come true. When her four-year-old daughter complained of abdominal pains, she took her to see a doctor. The doctor, after a thorough examination, gravely told the mother that her little girl was the victim of sexual molestation. She had been raped. The mother informed the New York City authorities, who quickly determined that the abuse occurred at a Bronx, New York, day-care center.

    Investigations at the center yielded horrifying results. First one, then another, then still another child revealed that they, too, had been molested. At least 30 children eventually claimed that they had been abused in that same center. One of them had gonorrhea. Then reports surfaced that children had been molested at another day-care center. Then at another. Eventually seven day-care centers had to be investigated in the New York City area alone.

    As each new case was publicized, reports of child molesting started coming in from other parts of the country. The scandal spread. Parents asked one another: "What's happening?" What indeed! Was this just a freakish rash of molestation incidents? Or was it something very widespread that was only now being noticed?

  • gambler
    gambler

    Is dateline a sure thing for this tuesday? I have not seen any ads for it on NBC.

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

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    Watchtower Spin Doctors!
    Dr. Gail Bethea-Jackson tells us that we didn't know what child abuse was 18-20 years ago.
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    Who is she trying to kid. The following is a list of books printed 18-20 years ago OR MORE on family violence and incest. This is just a list of books that I have in my library. In the video she says that she never heard of this when she was in school. Duh - gotta wonder where she studied.

    Abusing Family Justice, B. & Justice, R. 1976 NY: Human Science Press Family violence academic

    Battered Wives Martin, D. 1976 NY: Bantam battering - academic -

    Dark Side of Families: Current Family Violence Research. Finkelhor, D., Gelles. R.J., Hotaling G.T. & Straus, M.A. (Ed.) 1983 NY: Sage
    A Child is Being Beaten: Violence Against Children Chase, N.F. 1976 NY: McGraw-Hill

    Child Abuse is Scary Parent's Anonymous 1977 Torrance, CA: Parent's Anonymous

    Child Abuse: The Developing Child Kempe, R.S. & Kempe, C.H. 1978 Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press Child/abuse - academic -

    Child Sexual Abuse: New Theory and Theory Finkelhor, D. 1984 NY: Free Press Child/Sexual/abuse - research -

    Children of Trauma: Rediscovering your Discarded Self Middleton-Moz, J. 989 Pompano Beach, FL: Health Communications self-help - survivors

    Common Secret: Sexual Abuse of Children and Adolescents Kempe, R.S. & Kempe, C.H. 1984 NY: W.H. Freeman and Co. Child Sexual abuse - academic - research -

    Conspiracy of Silence: The Trauma of Incest Butler, S. 1978 San Francisco: New Glide Child Sexual abuse - academic -

    Cry in the Night Clark, M. H. 1982 NY: Simon & Schuster

    Curriculum on Child Abuse and neglect National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect 1979 Washington, D.C: U.S. Department of Health Education and Welfare Child abuse

    Daddy's Girl: A Very Personal Memoir Allen, C.V. 1980 Toronto: Seal incest - autobiography -

    Father-Daughter Incest. Herman, J.L. 1981 Harvard University Press

    Frances Ann Speaks Out:My Father Raped Me Chetin, H. 1977 NY: New Seed Press incest - biography

    I Never Told Anyone: Writings by Women Survivors of Child Sexual Abuse Bass, E. & Thornton, L. 1983 NY: Harper & Row biography - incest

    Incest and Human Love Stein, R. 1973 Dallas: Spring Publications incest academic

    Incest: A Psychological Study of Causes and Effects ... Meiselman, K.C. 1979 San Francisco: Jossey-Bass incest - Treatment - Child Sexual abuse

    Kiss Daddy Goodnight:A Speak-out on Incest Armstrong, L. 1978 NY: Pocket incest - adults - survivors -

    Outgrowing the Pain: For and About Adults Abused as Children. Gil, E. 1983 Walnut Creek, CA: Launch Press

    Sexual Victimization of Children. de Young. M. 1982 Jefferson, NC: McFarland

    Sexually Abused Children and their Families Mrazek, P.B. & Kempe, C.H. 1981 Oxford: Pergamon theory

    Sexually Victimized Children Finkelhor, D. 1979 NY: Free Press Child Sexual abuse - research

    Silent Scream Janssen, M. 1983 Philadelphia, PA: Fortress biography - poetry - incest

    Silent Sin: Case History of Incest Woodbury, J. & Schwartz, E. 1971 NY: New American incest - biography

    Voices in the Night: Women Speaking About Incest McNaron, T.A.H. & Morgan, Y. (Eds.) 1982 Pittsburg, PA: Cleis Press incest - survivors - biography

    Who Speaks for the Children? Silverman, P. 1978 Don Mills, ON: Musson Book Co. Child abuse

    A not-so-silent lamb

    Aspire to inspire before you expire

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Dearest Randy... peace to you!

    Please forgive me, but I have to agree with the "Dr."... a great many folks didn't know the traumatic effects of molestation... or drugs, or alcohol or tobacco... and more. Indeed, a good many didn't WANT to know, either!

    However, ignorance is NOT an excuse for those who CLAIM to be 'the visible representation of the Lord on earth', who CLAIM to be led 'by God's spirit'. For would not God's 'spirit'... HOLY SPIRIT... have let them know the hurt and pain experienced by any one of the 'sheep', even the smallest, youngest or least among them? For is it not said that when ONE member of the Body hurts, the ENTIRE BODY suffers?

    Yet, they 'felt' nothing. But how can that be? Quite simple, as my Lord himself said:

    "The HIRED MAN, who is NO shepherd and to whom
    the sheep do NOT belong as his own, beholds the
    wolf [the 'wild beast'] coming AND ABANDONS THE
    SHEEP... and FLEES - and the wolf snatches them
    and scatters them - BECAUSE HE IS A HIRED MAN
    AND DOES NOT CARE FOR THE SHEEP!"

    John 10:12, 13

    Indeed, if such men... such WOLVES... cannot 'see' that the sheep need to be 'protected' from THEMSELVES... from their false prophesy, propaganda, rhetoric, heavy 'loads' and burdensome 'yoke'... as well as the beeline to the 'pit'... how can they be expected to 'see' that the sheep need protecting from any OTHER... predator(s)? They can't, dear Randy. Why? Because they themselves, although thinking they are 'rich' and have 'acquired riches' and 'do not need anything at all'... CANNOT 'see' that in truth, THEY are the ones who are miserable and pitiable and poor and... naked. Because THEY are the ones who are 'blind'.

    But... because they SAY that they 'see'... their 'sin'... remains. Too bad, too bad.

    A slave of Christ,

    SJ

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    herbert: Good job bro! This WT stuff is a smoking gun now! Wow baby!

    Start another thread on your findings....Good Job..

    """Please forgive me, but I have to agree with the "Dr."... a great many folks didn't know the traumatic effects of molestation""

    Brother: Better read your WT of twenty years ago....(Wow, I guess the WTs pubs are worth keeping sometimes......)

  • herbert
    herbert

    ThiChi,

    Could you start the other thread perhaps. I'm at my limit and also I don't have time right now....

    thanks -

    herbert

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