by Dogpatch 65 Replies latest watchtower scandals
pathofthornes,
:The Watchtower is an organization that finds it excruciatingly difficult to say "we're sorry, we made a mistake... we were wrong".
Not entirely true. I assert they find it "impossible" to say "we're sorry." To my knowledge, they've NEVER done that.
Anyone care to provide contrary evidence? I'm all ears. Well?
Farkel
Redhorsewoman, Oh my god, What an excellent comparison. I remember in the 70s Witness fornicators were considered filthy perverted souls. And my father, the abuser? The Elders said, "He is still your father and head of the house. You must sit with him at the back of the hall [after his disfellowshipping]" God, I wish I had the Linda Blair vomit connection for that meeting!
And KPL, my heart goes out to you. We are "sisters" in spirt. I supposedly disassociated myself. But probably 8 years before that, this Witness said to my mother (we were at a play), "Can I say hi to him?" All I did was stop going to meetings. I wasn't perverted yet!
I do not acknowledge their disfellowshipping/disassociating whatsover. If someone is an asshole, I avoid them. And if they step over the line in my face, I have no problem telling them what I really think. I don't need some organization telling me who are the assholes and who aren't!
That is the biggest load of cr*p I have ever heard.
Parents didn't know the seriousness, 18 or 20 years ago, and the long-term effects.
If we reverse this line of reasoning, this means that:
If there are no long-term effects then child molestation is not very serious?
This is wrong!!!! This pisses me off. The Watchtower should be ashamed to have that on their Website.
After reading this thread, it occurred to me that the Watchtower organization is so obsessed with suppressing it's members individuality (no individual opinions, no birthdays, no mothers day, etc...), that they cannot show a the slightest empathy toward those that have been hurt by their stupidity. Concern for the individual members is impossible from this d*mn Organization.
1) For human issues and the social dynamics of dysfunctional families: "Reader's Digest," a periodical with a "rich heritage" of reliable information.2) For all other issues regarding science: "Popular Mechanics," and old and long-respected source as a journal for the latest in science advancements.
For everything else, they get their information from:
3) "God"
Hey Farkel,
Don't be so hard on the Watchtower Publishing and Real Estate Co. Maybe their god did not know child molestation was bad, so it did not send his spirit to let them know it was an abomination.
I know people went to jail for child molestation during the 1980,s so maybe the judicial system was a better spirit directed organization. ;)
JRP
Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful.
Nietzsche
Randy,
I'm still your fan! I've always been your fan. You are a ground-breaker, brother and we've all gained from your hard work. May the force stay with you.
Farkel
: God, I wish I had the Linda Blair vomit connection for that meeting!
I sell that! I only sell it in cases because I only hurl it by the case. I prefer Campbell's Split-Pea soup because one gets lethal weapons instead of just goo. Wouldn't YOU rather hurl chunks of peas than just goo?
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Way to go everyone!!!!!...they keep spewing and the world just gets better acquainted with their rotten, slimy, fecund, diseased, pustular, stench-ridden fruit; 'by their fruits, you will know these men'.
Peace to you all and may I say "hmmmm...." and forgive me for being pendantic, but:
Ms. Jackson is a clinical social worker specializing in the area of victimization with an advanced certificate in child and adolescent psychotherapy from the Washington School of Psychiatry.May I ask: although Ms. Bethea-Jackson is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW), who got her Masters in Social Work, is she a "doctor"? I mean, although in California an LCSW is considered a "Licensed Practicer of the Healing Arts (LPHA), I did not know that one is considered to be a "doctor". In California, in order to be a "Dr.", one must be either an M.D., Ph.D, D.C., D.D.S., Ed.D., etc.
She received her BA at Hampton (Institute) University in Hampton, Virginia; and a then went on to earn her Master's in Social Work from the School of Applied Social Sciences at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio.
Does having an LCSW make one a "Dr."? I ask this because one of my Health & Human Science professors was an LCSW, as well as a Ph.D. And I do contract work for an LCSW and I have never heard her refer to herself as "Doctor". In fact, her business cards, letterhead, etc., simply state her name, followed by "LCSW".
In California, an LCSW is on the same "level" as an MFT (Marriage and Family Therapist), and thus, is considered a THERAPIST, but not a physician or "doctor", medical or otherwise. Is it different in other states? Because if not, I would have to wonder why the WTBTS is "selling" Ms. Bethea-Jackson AS a "doctor".
Just asking.
A slave of Christ,
SJ
Hmmm,
Wonder what would happen if Dateline did a follow up story on this with the "Dr's" statement about not knowing it was gonna cause any long lasting effects on the child (Plus, of course, they didn't notify any authorities because it wasn't even viewed as a serious crime) contrasting the WT and Awake! articles (And maybe a scripture or two <G>) ..
I think Dateline would just eat the hypocrisy of the WTBTS up for lunch (and, once one media network get's a good frenzy going, it probably won't be long before the others follow!!!)...
Oh, and you could just tell from how the lady talked that she didn't believe what she was saying either!!!!
That was the sickest thing I've ever seen !!!! Pure EVIL!!
Hi Randy: This is truly sickening that people would say these sorts of things. As if they didn't undestand that molestation was wrong. In California, the reporting and registration of such sex offenders has been on the books for over 50 years.
The problems states had with these laws was enforceability. In recent decades, the willingness of victims to step forward, the improvements in mental health therapy has given greater understanding and support to the harm caused ... and the legislators and courts have finally improved ways to enforce longstanding laws, or by improving the laws themselves.
What people fail to mention today, is that in the 'olden days' when someone was found to be a child molester, they were given justice outside the law. That in itself is wrong, but does demonstrate that the issue has been well known and dealt with in various ways. Any claim that people didn't understand the harm and know that it needed to be addressed 20 years ago simply will not fly. What a pathetic excuse these folks make.
