by You Know 165 Replies latest social current
Well, HEY Ginny! Good to see you back amongst us pirates - hang around - we surrrrrrrrrre do miss you!
Btw, remember those sisters who used to stand right inside the front door of the KH at the Memorial? Specifically chosen to "meet and greet" all who entered.......but targeted new comers? Well, I've not been chosen......come to think of it - I never was!
But glad to see ya!
waiting
>>>The most shocking and disgusting aspect of the Dateline program, in my opinion, was the airing of a snippet of a private conversation that was recorded without the victim’s knowledge. Such underhanded smear tactics should be offensive to all people.<<<
Oh get a life! it depends on the State your resideing in, or a taped coversation if it involves admissions of criminal acts or evidence there of, or if you arein the conversation, there are many factors to consider here. If the Judicial systems can pervert justice what makes you think the Jehovah's Witness judicial body is above it?
Pepper
If the Judicial systems can pervert justice what makes you think the Jehovah's Witness judicial body is above it?
Huh? What are you talking about? LOL / You Know
Not sure why I bother, since most posters have already picked apart the (straw-man) locic of YK. However, my 2 cents (which have already been mentioned by Ginny) re: Telephone recording.
In all of Canada, and most US states, anyone can record any conversation which they are part of. (Of course, recording a conversation which you are not part of is generally illegal, unless you have a court warrant for a wiretap). Since Bill Bowen was recording his own telephone conversation, he was likely well within the law (unless KY is an exception to the "no notice required" laws).
I agree with YK (I can't believe I just typed that!!!) The snippet of the tele-con was too short! I move, and hope that YK will second the motion, that Bill Bowen post the entire telephone conversation on the silentlambs.org website! Bill, if you can't host it, contact me and I would be thrilled to host it at Quotes.
Perhaps posting the entire conversation will eliminate the (unlikely) possibility that NBC deliberately used out-of-context quotes. Also, it would be good to have a prologue describing the circumstances around the recording -- was it in response to an active case? Was Bill just doing his elder job, when he heard this and this it was caused him to have a crisis of conscience?
YK, perhaps you could help by offering to Bill to make the transcript to post along with the recording? That is, if your injuries (as seen in your icon) have healed.
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You Know,
I have been thinking about your thread. As I can recall, some media news does do what you mentioned. They are that way when exposing the Catholic Church. Why are you doing the same?
In other words, what is good for the chicken is good for the roster, don't you think?
How come you point at the Dateline program when the Watchtower magazines are so malicious when they expose their news and articles? I don't know you to well; all I know is that you are a very involved poster in this forum and you read a lot of the posting here... I wonder how could you still be a JW reading so many facts about your religion; at least, the stuff presented here on this forum.
How could you explain the pain of many families when it comes to ex communion? So what if Dateline exposed to much of it! Good! you know the people's pain by reading the threads on this forum.
Who are you? what is your purpose on this forum? I haven't been here to long to understand you... to know who you are; or even to know if someone here has asked you before who you are.
All I know is that I wanted to say hello, to offer my friendship to you; to offer my shoulder if you need it to cry someday. I do think of you often. Love and blessings,
Yadira
Yadira Angelini:
I have been thinking about your thread.
That's good. That's why I write, in order to provoke a little bit of thought.
As I can recall, some media news does do what you mentioned. They are that way when exposing the Catholic Church. Why are you doing the same?What do you mean?
In other words, what is good for the chicken is good for the roster, don't you think?I am not sure what you mean. But, I can tell you now, and I have written about it before concerning the media and how they manipulate the masses, that it's not just anti-JW stuff, I don't accept anything at face value that comes through the mainstream media.
How come you point at the Dateline program when the Watchtower magazines are so malicious when they expose their news and articles?Well, I guess the simple answer is that I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
I wonder how could you still be a JW reading so many facts about your religion; at least, the stuff presented here on this forum.My writings should make it plain that as one of Jehovah's Witnesses, my faith in Jehovah God and my knowledge of him doesn't depend upon what the Watchtower does or doesn't do. I would only hope to inspire others to trust Jehovah and not allow themselves to be stumbled by the failings of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York Inc.
How could you explain the pain of many families when it comes to ex communion?I don't want to minimize the pain of others. I think what the brothers have done is terrible, and I have no doubt that Jehovah is going to settle accounts with everyone.
So what if Dateline exposed to much of it! Good! you know the people's pain by reading the threads on this forum.Dateline didn't expose too much, they gave a very limited peek at the reality, that's the issue that I have is that it is simply a narrow one-sided presentation. There are a lot of really fine people in Jehovah's organization, most people on this board have family and friends and loved ones in the truth who don't deserve to be tarred with the brush apostates want to smear us with, and there's no denying that apostates had a good bit of input with the producers of Dateline. But, hey that's fine too. I am happy that they had their 15 minutes of fame, as Andy Warhol said.
Who are you? what is your purpose on this forum? I haven't been here to long to understand you... to know who you are; or even to know if someone here has asked you before who you are.All I can say is that I am a zealot for Jehovah and that his word burns in me like a fire sometimes. It's hard to explain. / You Know
the Dateline production was directed at an uniformed and generally prejudiced public.
You've got to be kidding. Hardly anyone knows WHO Jehovah's Witnesses are let alone WHAT they believe in. PREJUDICED...give me a break!
Ah yes, the Black Art of Propaganda, and I present to You(Know) the MASTERS of the art:
D8TA
...and that we want them all to die.
Well, that certainly doesn't describe your drool-slavering, knuckle-cracking eagerness to see our flesh rot off, does it, Bobby.
I wonder what percentage of YK's posts is about apostates?
I wonder what percentage of the Bible is about apostates?
Englishman.
