Sometimes I Am Ashamed

by Dutchie 205 Replies latest jw friends

  • Prisca
    Prisca

    ...And so, another naive jw.com poster realises the foolishness of changing his mind, for such a thing was not allowed in the ancient kingdom of jw.com, according to certain posters who insisted that a person must keep to previously-held views, and must never ever change their mind........

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Dutchie,

    I came to this thread late and after a number of shots of liquor. You poor old thing...lol. What have you started?

    I think that your thread should not have been entitled, "Sometimes I am Ashamed", but, "Why Don't you Zonkas all Get Job's". How grown people have so much time posting so many posts of such useless function is the real mystery to me.

    Bare bottoms, cleavages, titterings behind the bike sheds, scores of posts - God, it brings a whole new meaning to the phrase 'A minute is a hundred years'.

    Relax Dutchie, and move on.

    HS

  • Naeblis
    Naeblis

    You're allowed to post your opinion Dutchie. But I'm allowed to tell you why I think you're wrong. Is taht ok? But this thread tires me. We don't agree as we have a vastly different moral system. Next time you see something you don't like, just stop going there. It works. Here, watch me demonstrate.

  • Dutchie
    Dutchie

    Becky, they were naked pictures on a public forum. I think morality does come into play. I must be honest here. When you are willing to display your body for public view, I don't care how beautiful it is or how great it feels to finally be free, morality does play a part. I think my body is beautiful. I really do. Its long and slim and perky in all the right places. I wear a size 4 dress. I would no more consider bearing it on a public forum than I would consider running naked down the street. I believe that I am a moral person and I guess I am judgmental. I guess I do judge others. Oh, my, I just realized that! But then we all judge others don't we? We all judge people who don't agree with us or who don't think the way we do. Its just the way we are.

  • Sam Beli
    Sam Beli

    Hello Dutchie,

    Thank you for saying what needed to be said. You raise a valid issue. Of course in most of the western world free speech rights abound; but a "right" does not always make it the best choice, nor does it necessarily produce good manners or conduct that is in good taste.

    Frankly, I am disappointed by many of the "tasteless" posts on Simons board. Why some publicly "go wild" after leaving the JWs could fill more threads.

    Your original post on this thread, it seemed to me, was a call for exercising better judgement, for exhibiting some restraint, thinking of the possible effects on others of our manners in this forum. In a word you were calling for some "selflessness," or that was my impression of your intent.

    Said another way, you were asking us to act with dignity, with refinement. Refinement has little to do with education or intelligence. I have known Ph.D.s with plenty of crassness, yet some who barely made it through HS have refinement to burn. My own experience has been to observe a greater number of elegant people outside the JW community than within it.

    Flame away those of you who wish to do so, but the above are my honest opinions.

  • joeshmoe
    joeshmoe

    We all judge each other don't we? When you first learn of someone, you make a judgement call on them, then as you get to know them you alter that judgement as you see fit.

    The question is, if you've judged someone wanting, can you force them to change? Well, no, you can't force them, but if your intention was to raise the issue that you sometimes are a little "ashamed" by the board and hoped that perhaps that would make some of us stop and think, mission accomplished. Will anyone change? Thats for time to tell.

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Neablis,

    We don't agree as we have a vastly different moral system

    I suspect that your moral system will change as soon as you get your grip on a women and impregnate her...lol Moral systems are not static, they change with passions fashion.

    What will yours be tommorrow? Perhaps exactly the same as Dutchie's. Remember Madonna, outrageous to the tenth degree, then banning smoking and swearing from her home, lest she contaminate her infant.

    Our 'standards' have a way of leaping up and savaging our rear end as we get a little older.

    Brotherly advise - HS

  • Naeblis
    Naeblis

    Perhaps Hillary. But this is what I believe now, and I will defend it.. NOW. She is free to do the same as she has been doing.

  • Naeblis
    Naeblis

    And you made me ruin my clever way of leaving this thread. *sigh*

  • Dutchie
    Dutchie

    Hey, Naeblis, I thought you were leaving. Thank you for giving me permission to believe as I choose. I appreciate that!

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