What's with the media and the march

by Lady Lee 72 Replies latest jw friends

  • kenpodragon
    kenpodragon
    But please dont question Bill.

    I say question everyone!!!!!!! Telling people not to question someone is like the elders saying "Do not question the GB"

    Just my thought

    Dragon

  • kelsey007
    kelsey007

    That is exactly teh jwish type remarks I was refereing to in another post. Dont question him??

  • kelsey007
    kelsey007

    Examples of comments made by silent lambs supporters that they bash jws for using:

    Dont question him.

    Be patient.

    Dont be negative.

    Where else can you go- as imperfect as we are at least we are on the right road.

    God will work things out.

    They are working on it as we speak.

    It will come to pass.

    God is bigger than they are.

    SOme of these are exact quotes others are paraphrased but they have all been used in throwing stones at any criticism about the movement.

  • kenpodragon
    kenpodragon

    When I read all those in a row ... I honestly felt ill!

    Getting chills

    Dragon

  • izobcenec
    izobcenec

    I didnt question Bill, I honestly like the guy!
    BUT if I would have to question him, I would, why not?

    And it was just my impression, I dont even know him...

  • Larry
    Larry

    Ok - I make a retraction - Yes, question everything, always. We are humans before we are anything else - Trust no one, not even yourself. But when you ask what is he doing now? It's unfair - what are you doing, what is anyone doing? Does it matter? I think the question should be 'What has he DONE lately?' Plenty!

    Criticize the movement - no movement is above criticism. If we learned anything from the BORG it's that. But god damn, the man has done so much to help many people. He can't do everything, and he is not perfect. I think his intentions are sincere.

    Let pool our energies on changing the BORGs many wrong policies. Silentlambs today, another life saving movement tomorrow.

    Peace - LL

  • kelsey007
    kelsey007

    "he is not perfect. I think his intentions are sincere. "

    Another of the great JW outs for the elders!

  • kelsey007
    kelsey007

    Of course remember that these lines only apply to the leaders- not to the rank and file sheep...

  • kenpodragon
    kenpodragon

    Larry

    I realize kelsey is pushing you, but I think he has a valid point. We have to realize that much of what we disliked about the Witnesses, is being repeated in regards to the silentlambs issue. Also, when someone puts themselves in the public eye. They better be willing to hear both sides. Thus, the reason politicians get to have there families dragged through the mud, just because they want to serve you. That is the freedom of this country, freedom of information. I have healed from the JW ways immensely, and I think many have. At this level in my life, I am most concerned that others realize where they are and not fall into any old ways.

    I have done a lot with using the laws to help people. I will not lambaste myself with all that I have accomplished. I will say this though, my most affective positions came from going after the laws, and regulations. Nothing about making a media circus does anything. After all, isn't the circus of the media designed with hoping something changes? What changes? ... Law, policy, etc. Why not just go right to the heart of the matter and focus your energies there?

    As a side note ... anyone that says "Do not speak about Bill when he is gone and not here to defend himself" should question themselves when they speak about the Governing Body. As they do not come to this board. Basically, if you are going to set a precident in your life, base it on logic and not emotion.

    Just makes sense to me

    Dragon

    Edited by - kenpodragon on 29 September 2002 19:59:24

  • izobcenec
    izobcenec

    larry: noone is critising bill's work so you dont have to defend him
    but you have the agree that the silentlambs issue is now far more
    than just helping the victims...it is about survival of watchtower now...
    they CANNOT change any policy, if they would, that would mean,
    that the current policy was wrong. then they would lose all the lawsuits
    (and I'm not saying that they are not going to anyway), but if they
    admit, that they have bad policy, they are gone, thats what I think...
    and, as someone stated, insted of the sign "watchtower" there will
    be a sign "for sale"...I think bill knows that too...the same is with blood
    issue, they will never change that, because if they would, the lawsuits
    would killed them...so the question is, will the FBI investigate, will they
    lose lawsuits? They have good lawyers, are they good enough? And
    dont think there is no lobbying going on with politicians too, the watchtower
    is a surviver, just look what did they survive in last 130 years I mean they
    fight like crazy, their lawyers thinking of ways to contra attack, they will
    investigate backgrounds of bill, barbara and every victim, just to find anyting.
    we are now at turning point, the silentlambs issue is finaly seriously taken by
    them.

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