Dakota, it is becoming more and more apparent to me that you have no grasp of the Scripture at all.
How typical of a trinitarian, attack those who see things differently.
I give you a verse that says Jehovah sends Jehovah to dwell among his people, you all you do is say it's "an excellent example of polytheism." That kind of left me with a: "that's nice, but where's your response to the verse?"
And I gave you 65 examples of scripture that clearly shows questionable doubt as to your doctrine and what did you do? I also gave you Jesus' very own words at John 17:3 of him calling another "the ONLY true God," and what did you do? You wish to pin your doctrine on single questionable scriptures while totally ignoring the rest of the Bible and the originals writers intent when they wrote it. Then, you have the audacity to refer to another as a "dorkus scholar?"
Now I don't know about you, but if Jehovah sent Jesus the Messiah to dwell among His people, and in this prophecy about the Messiah, Jehovah sends Jehovah to dwell among his people, I think it's saying that the Messiah is Jehovah! It's pretty much common sense. But go on! Keep twisting and avoiding the Scripture. I find that you are very sly in avoiding to actually address that passage in Isaiah.
Try reading scriptures from the mindset of the Jews who mostly wrote it thousands of years ago, instead of forcing modern views on it and changing their original intent to fit todays beliefs.
You also seem to have many misconceptions about Trinitarians. You seem to think we believe in three Gods. Trinitarians believe in ONE sovereign God, however, He exists as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. That's Biblical teaching, you can find it many places all throughout the Bible.
That's only your view. Simply stated, one cannot be three, yet still one. I state what your view appears to others. Don't blame me because you cannot see simple points due to clinging to dogma.
It's not a "secret" doctrine, because its so easily found. But it is a mystery (1Timothy 3:16).
It's not a secret, but a mystery? And why is everything else so clearly pointed to in scripture, yet the single most important doctrine is not? And you claim I have no grasp on scripture? It always comes back to, "it is just a mystery and you have to accept it."
1 Thessalonians 5:21. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good (KJV) How do you prove a mystery?
1 Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God...they are spiritually discerned."
The most important thing for someone to do is become saved.
John 3:18 "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
Romans 10:13 "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."
If you believe on the name of the Son of God, and accept Him as your Lord and savior, then you will become born again and are one of God's children.
Sorry, I grew up in a Born Again religion, and find them as restrictive and misguided as the JWs. All proclaim to follow Christ, but as you have clearly shown, fail to follow Jesus' own words as to showing love to brother and neighbor, the mark of the true disciple of Christ. (John 13:34, 35; Luke 10:27)
John 1:12 "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:"
God will preserve you. 2 Timothy 4:18: "And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen."
After you have become saved...
Acts 1:8a "But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you:"
Romans 8:14 "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God."
...The Spririt leads someone in Scripture after they are saved, for the discernment is lifted. Most posting messages in here are not saved, and therefore are spiritually discerned.
How utterly Christian of you. Where are you any different than the Watchtower? They teach all will die and be slaughtered at Armegeddon and you insinuate all will suffer eternal damnation and torture for not accepting your view.
Sorry, you are no different than the Watchtower and I rejected them too. I will follow life as I see it and read the Bible as I see it, not how misguided fundamentalists and hellfire and brimstone preachers tell me I should.
When you learn to actually love your brother and neighbor as yourself, maybe then you will learn the true meaning of Christs message. Until then, you will remain stuck in your own quagmire of fundamentalism and will be no better than the JWs who are stuck in their own quagmire.
Lew W
