Jesus Sacrifice - How Stupid and Illogical

by MrMoe 139 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • MrMoe
    MrMoe
    That is all the proof you need, the Bible itself declares itself as the Word of God. God does not lie

    That's it?! That is your arguement?! You can't be serious! So Harry Potter IS REAL! I mean, it IS in a book!

    No, I want PROOF!

  • rem
    rem

    Gumby,

    You forgot to put the (TM) after REAL CHRISTIANITY (TM).

    I just have to say I absolutely love the title of this thread. LOL

    rem

  • gumby
    gumby

    Rem,

    TM....I forgot! LOL

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan

    The sacrifice is mine - and I do miss Him - it was God who provided the sacrifice for me.

    Who are you all ?

    I can't stay here.

  • gumby
    gumby

    it was God who provided the sacrifice for me.

    Why didn't he just SACRIFICE adam and eve and save ALL the damn trouble?

    Hate to see ya leave paduan. Just because there are those who differ, you don't need to leave. There are plenty who agree with you too is there not? Many didn't agree with the Christians when they started......they didn't leave.

  • JT
    JT

    One poster stated:

    That is all the proof you need, the Bible itself declares itself as the Word of God. God does not lie

    now let's look at why that arguments holds no water

    ask a muslium the same question and he will say:

    That is all the proof you need, the Koran itself declares itself as the Word of Allah. Allah does not lie

    or you ask a car company who has the best car and Ford writes in it;s OWN PUBLICATIONS

    "We make the best cars in the world"

    or that fine car company in the USSR - (the one that we see on tv always smoking ans sputtering)

    they too write in their own publication "We make the finest car in the world"

    whenever a person during the course of a debate or argument uses statements from the "Subject under discussion" as the basis to support itself - it clearly shows that this person KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT PROVING A POINT

    how many times have we seen when a jw is asked Why do you teach so and so- they will say cause the Bound Volume says so on page 257- so i guess they expect you and i to accept it cause the bound vol says so

    i recall hearing an elder tell a sister to show her doctor the bound volume as to why we don't take certain types of blood compondents-

    Can you imagine the look on the Dr. face after some little old black lady with no education tells him I can't take Hemoglomuin Factor 6 --because it says so here on page 87 and 192

    and this is the exact same thing this poster is doing here

    THE BIBLE IS INSPIRED CAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS ITS INSPIRED

  • funkyderek
    funkyderek
    "All scripture is God-breathed and useful for teaching, correcting, rebuking, and training in righteousness..."

    That is all the proof you need, the Bible itself declares itself as the Word of God. God does not lie. She also said that she believes in a God, so why do you not believe what He says?

    Congratulations! We have a new winner in the quest for the most illogical fundie on the board. (Sorry clash, you're number 2 now.)

  • Calvinist02
    Calvinist02

    Ok, I guess none of you got my point-- I was replying to someone who had said that they believe in God, but not that we should live by the Bible. I said "If you believe in God, why don't you believe you should live by what He has said?" (or something like that).

    For all of you who "need proof for the Bible"... you won't accept it anyways. None of you have faith. You've already put me on your "lower level" so won't listen to anything I say anyways. So, I am just going to tell you this:

    You will be held accountable for everything you've heard was true. You've heard that God is real. That He is sovereign. That He sent His perfect Son to die for sinners and save them from God's wrath. When you are standing before God...

    Revelation 20:11-15

    11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

    You will be judged for your sins...

  • donkey
    donkey
    You will be held accountable for everything you've heard was true. You've heard that God is real. That He is sovereign. That He sent His perfect Son to die for sinners and save them from God's wrath. When you are standing before God...

    If you are there when he judges me please have a kleenex handy for the dude because I will spit in his face.

  • donkey
    donkey

    Let's see how stupid this Christian stuff is by way of analogy (do not take what I am about to say as me being insensitive):

    Take my last post:

    If you are there when he judges me please have a kleenex handy for the dude because I will spit in his face.

    If my last remark pissed you off then why not kill your kid so that you will no longer be pissed off with me and I will be redeemed in your eyes?

    Sounds ridiculous or stupid or sick? Well ...that's the logic you use for God killing Jesus on our behalf:

    He sent His perfect Son to die for sinners and save them from God's wrath

    You almost make it seem like God number sent Jesus to die for sinners so that God number 2 would not kill the sinners.

    Spout away dear Christian....

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