Yeh,I see what your saying crazy,but it I feel some people would still grow it the way they want and sell it that way.When your saying legalizing it are you saying it would be sold in a pot store as well?
Legalize ALL Drugs. Yes or No?
by SpannerintheWorks 83 Replies latest jw friends
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Sargon
This topic hits near and dear to me. I've been on a 25 year oddysee (sic) where I've experimented with almost every drug thats hit the market (or the street).
Should All drugs be legalized. Of course not, are you nuts. There's enough crackheads running rampant around my neighbourhood without giving them legal justification for their vices. By keeping this substance illegal, the police can pick these arseholes up almost any time they have to without violating their rights. This crack is the most vicious, vile drug that's ever been created, it takes very little to get hooked. Once this shit has it's fangs in a person, it doesn't let go. It changes peoples personalities, they'll do anything to get the next high.
Should some drugs be legalized. Of course. We've got listed as drugs things that grow naturally and are nowhere near as harmful to people as alcohol. Things like weed and hash should be as freely available as alcohol. Personally I like sillycybins (sic) too.
My rule of thumb is: if it grows naturally, OK: but if it comes from a lab,avoid the shit.
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og
Sure, you can smoke crack all you want. Lock yourself in a room, never get in a car, never expose children (unborn or already delivered) to you or your filthy habit, use your independent wealth to fund it, and do as you want to ONLY your body, and I'll probaby pity you but it won't much affect me. If you can accomplish total isolation, smoke away. But the minute you want to collect any goverment funds to support you in your addiction, the first second you collect unemployment because your crack-destroyed self can't hold a job, the moment you want my tax dollars to subsidize your habit through distribution or production, or the first time someone else is harmed by your inability to function normally as a result of your addiction, you're no longer an island.
I agree with this entire paragraph! Drugs should be legal, and the state is not responsible for the results. I'm glad that our positions appear to be exactly alike!
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og
Except for the "filthy habit" part.
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MegaDude
I agree the war on drugs was lost before it was begun. And people will do what they want regardless of any law on their desire to have "fun."
I worry about the *perception* towards drugs people will have, especially young people, if they are legalized. I can see some big company or companies marketing their drug as the better high, the smoother toke, whatever. I disagree with people who have a casual attitude toward marijuana because the frequent users I know are negatively affected by it in some way. At least that has been my experience with the handful of people I know who use it often. I'm not talking about people who use it at a party or on infrequent occasions.
If drugs are legalized then I think addicts and users should have register with the government. Addicts to harder drugs could get their supply free of charge. I believe they do this in Switzerland. This would cut down on the crime. However, we would need fewer police so cops in our country will always fight like hell to keep them illegal because drugs are a type of job security to them.
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og
If drugs are legalized then I think addicts and users should have register with the government. Addicts to harder drugs could get their supply free of charge. I believe they do this in Switzerland.
You think drugs should be provided? I thought I was liberal.
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Crazy151drinker
Shera,
Yes. That would be the only way it would work. Just legalizing drugs would not solve any of the problems. You have to Regulate it and Tax it, just like they do with Alcohol and Tobacco. You would have to have a permit to grow/manufacure and to sell (just like they do with Alcohol and Tobacco). By making it a business drug costs will plummet. Its simple economics. Beer is cheap because of the competition. Im sure you would have different products and growers, but that is a good thing. Prices would be so low that it would not be profitable unless you did it on a large scale. Gang members are not about to invest money in a product that only gives them 10% profit when they are used to selling drugs at 500% profit (if not more...in reality a lot more, meth is cheap to manufacture). Even if Gangs did invest in legal stores, there would be no violence, why?? Simple, customers could go anywhere to buy so bad Stores would be unprofitable. Its not your usual, "Hey, I know this guy......", you could go anywhere to buy it so where would be the incentive for violence? They would be no 'Territories', you could go down the street, or go accross town, it wouldnt matter. As such people would be shooting other people to contol their customer base. Do McDonalds employees shoot KFC employees in order to keep their customers?? Of course not.
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Crazy151drinker
Mega,
I would transfer the DEA over to the ATF or enlist them in the new Homeland Defense Dept. I keep hearing the Feds and the FBI (and every other Alphabet agency) bitch that they dont have enough people. Fine, transfer the DEA agents over there. Simple.
As far as cops they have plenty to do. Instead of wasting jail space on druggies they could keep the muggers, rapists, child molesters, AND CAR THIEVIES in Jail where they belong!!!
I agree that alot of people in Govt would fight this becuase they wouldnt want to lose their jobs. Fine! Keep your job, just do it in another Dept doing something else- problem fixed.....
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og
Price markup from point of manufacture to point of sale is actually believed to be about 2,000% - perfectly believable for anyone who has ever grown the aptly named 'weed'.
Most of crazy151's points can be verified by reference to the giant drug experiment known as 'Holland'. In every measurable way, harm resulting from drug use either remained stable or slightly declined after decrimininalization. Or, as he has stated, consider the American experiment known as 'prohibition'. Prohibition greatly increased organized crime and liquor (as opposed to wine or beer) use. It also corrupted police forces. And this is happening now with the War on (some) Drugs - also, Civil Liberties have been systematically trashed, to the point where Americans now accept that some other Americans have the right to examine the contents of one's bladder.
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Sargon
Earth calling megadude:
Come on man, get real. Register these guys and then give them their drugs for free. i got better things to spend my tax dollars on than some one elses high.