Hi Kingpawn,
I think that Phillipians 2: 1-11 sums it up best. Keep in mind that some bibles translate the word that I have below as "robbery" or the NWT has "seizure" The bible I am quoting from now (RSV) uses the word "grasped". All of the words are correct imo, ans all make the point. I never understood the sentence highlighted below in the NWT because seizure sounded odd to me but when I checked other translations out..I could see that seizure fits but it also seems to be purposefully used to cause confusion. I don't know if I just mad esense to you or not.lol..
Phil.2: 5-11 Have this mind among yourselves which was in Christ Jesus, who though He was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form he humbled himself and became obedient unto death, even death on a cross. therefore God has highly exalted Him and bestowed on him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
There it says that Jesus knew that we would have a hard time grasping or seizing that He was equal to the Father. Notice that he emptied himself and took the form of a servant of God the Father. He humbled himself. Also note that in Isaiah 45:23.....every knee will bow to God. We are not to bow to angels...(Rev)
Jesus was humbling himself in his subjective role to the Father, yet they are equal. That is what it says! I had a hard time with this at first but I had to ask myself if I was going to accept the bible truths or man's. I decided to accept the way that God has revealed Himself to us, whether I fully "get it" or not. Jesus knew that we would have a hard time getting it and it seems that He was right again! IMO, the jw's can't get it either, so they decided to "fix" it by twisting scriptures and adding [other] there too again! Why can't they see that Jesus knew we would have a hard time "seizing" this truth?? I think it is their pride in the way. They need to reason and understand everything. Yet, how are we supposed to be able to understand fully what God can do or be....we don't have his same thoughts, do we? He has revealed Himself and still people want to deny that. We humans are really messed up sometimes....lol...
