The Scripture They Ignore, Ignore, Ignore...

by metatron 64 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  metatron

  Unchallenged? Hardly! Perhaps the simplicity of my point about 99.9% + of the human race escaped your notice,

  as demanded by Watchtower dogma

  Let me repeat my assertion - Watchtower thinking has poisoned your reasoning, period.

  I used to reason in the same extreme, twisted way as you are presently doing - and I used the same sort of extreme

  defense when criticism of the Watchtower's intolerance emerged. What I pointed out about "judgement" - goes right to the heart

  of why the Watchtower Society is so cold-hearted - and why Witnesses must endure in an atmosphere of fake love,

  fake concern, fake friends, and a fake ministry.

  metatron
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  gumby

  One of the problems with this forum is that JWs are JUDGED as being uniquely bad. All this does is betray the narrow experience of the ones highlighting such claims. ALL organizations do their "dirt".
  

  I prefer to attack the bad logic that lurks behind the bad behavior.

  JW's are judged as being bad? Damn straight they are! And do you mean to say YOU do not see them as destructive.......well beyond mainstream Christianity!????

  No this doesn't only benefit the one highlighting the claim. It exposes on the open internet, the ungodly teaching of an Organisation that has screwed with millions of lives for ALL to see.

  Yes, I agree that many times, LAME arguments are used to downplay the witnesses beyond other groups. Many religious groups have the same or similar traits of the witnesses, but this is a forum about Witnesses. Expect what you see.

  You prefer to attack the logic of the dubs eh? It's pretty much the same thing....or at least "ends" in the same thing.

  Gumby
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  freedom96

  I have to agree with the original post. The WTS can throw in a few scriptures to act like they don' t judge, but really, the whole organizatin is based on judging others. And I am sure we have all met some in the hall who take that to the next level, and are just unbearable to be around.

  The fact is, that if you had to sum up the WTS as a whole, including the average witness, one word could be : Judgmental. They judge all those around them, at work, home, the hall, the world as a whole. Everyone is damned unless they are perfect little witnesses. And even the WTS teaches, maybe, just maybe, you will make it.

  Jesus taught love, and compassion. And that is how I want to be. I will follow his example instead of some religion that teaches judging one another.
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  AuntieJane

  I definitely agree with Metatron's post. BTW can some JW's, or former, answer for me when the JW's began calling their ORG a Christian organization? I know it was not called such when I was younger. And, hmmm...would a Christian organization be one that follows Christ? Well, it would seem such an organization would follow his teachings and would not have to do so from a mis-translated book they have put together and slanderously named a Bible. The NWT is a sad excuse for the Good Book.
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  mustang

  It is inconvenient for WTS that Jesus is in the Bible.

  Mustang
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  Special K

  I found J.W.'s organization and it's followers to be extremely judgemental.. in a brainwashed, cultish kind of way.

  special k
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  proplog2

  Metatron:

  Your posts are so full of fallacies I don't know where to begin.

  Do you know what the "appeal to the Gallery" fallacy is?

  You know that this forum is rabidly anti-JW - so you tell them what they like to hear. Unfortunately in this case you make a claim that JW's ignore Luke 6:37 and I have shown that in the "usual" sense of "ignore" this isn't true. They discuss Luke 6:37 in their litterature. All you give is your personal "judgements" about their judging tendency.

  Do you know what the "poisoning the well" fallacy is?

  Let me repeat my assertion - Watchtower thinking has poisoned your reasoning, period.

  Oops. You clearly declared my reasoning "poisoned". This too, plays well to the gallery. OK, you've tried to poison my well, so that anything I say is suspect. That is a very effective device, and there's not a whole lot that I can do about it. But I won't be silenced so easily. One reason you might want to silence me is that you think that what I say might seriously damage your position. I think I DO have something significant to say, and I'd be interested in a response to it. You have failed to rebut my challenges.

  Funny. You use the same common (need I say CHEAP) fallacies that the Watchtower uses when they refer to "worldly" people and ideas?
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  DanTheMan

  proplog2,

  for the life of me I can't figure out what point you're trying to make here.
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  metatron

  Neither can I!

  I'll try one more time - if the Theocrats harshly judge (condemn, damn)

  99.9+% of the human race, any recognition of Jesus' words about judging is

  just ridiculous. Is that too difficult to comprehend?

  Also, condemning 99.9+% of the human race teaches Witnesses to be

  cold-hearted ---- and phoney because it's an impossible (impractical,

  extreme, unworkable) standard. Is that too difficult?

  metatron
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  proplog2

  Metatron:

  A gentleman would apologize when they are caught using the fallacies you've been using. You obviously aren't arguing in good faith. Or maybe you would like to deny that you have argued in "bad faith".

  But to move on...

  Are JW's so much worse than Jesus?

  Matthew 6

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  "Go in through the narrow gate; because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; 14 whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it.

  Luke 13

  23

  Now a certain man said to him: "Lord, are those who are being saved few?" He said to them: 24 "Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell YOU, will seek to get in but will not be able, 25 when once the householder has got up and locked the door, and YOU start to stand outside and to knock at the door, saying, ‘Sir, open to us.’ But in answer he will say to YOU, ‘I do not know where YOU are from.’ 26 Then YOU will start saying, ‘We ate and drank in front of you, and you taught in our broad ways.’ 27 But he will speak and say to YOU, ‘I do not know where YOU are from. Get away from me, all YOU workers of unrighteousness!’ 28 There is where [YOUR] weeping and the gnashing of [YOUR] teeth will be, when YOU see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but yourselves thrown outside.

  Metatron: How many people have JW's killed? How many people have Catholics killed?

  The Watchtower repeatedly talks about the billions of people that will be resurrected.

  I personally take issue with the idea that people who die at armageddon WON'T get resurrected. Eventually JW's will discover that.