by You Know 93 Replies latest jw friends
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The Society is going to disfellowship you for posting apostate nonsense
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------I don't think so. And I don't think you or any other apostate can excite them against me.
Nonsense. You are in their good graces right now solely due to the mercy of Farkel.
And yet there is nothing - nothing - written in the Bible to connect this parable with the 144,000, much less any reference to "Gods earthly organisation".
Nonsense. My guess is that you have never actually read the Bible, or if you have it has been man years ago.
For one thing, the faithful slave is not the 144,000. The slave is set over God's household to feed them. So, as I have pointed out, according to Christ's explaination of his parable, the slave represents those slaves who are put in charge over God's household. But, as for what God's household represents, that is no mystery. As I have posted on previous occasions, but no doubt due to your spiritual illiteracy and stubborness it has escaped you notice, nontheless, God's household are those who are anointed as joint hiers with Christ. Hebrews 3:6 says: "Christ was faithful as a Son over the house of that One. WE ARE THE HOUSE OF THAT ONE, if we make fast our hold on our freeness of speech..." Futhermore Paul wrote to the Ephesians saying: "You are fellow members of the HOUSEHOLD OF GOD, and you have been built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, while Christ Jesus is the foundation cornerstone."
At Revelation 21, the completed temple-like house of God is described as having 12 foundation stones with the names of the 12 apostles inscribed upon them, as well as having 12 gates with the names of the 12 sons of Israel inscribed on them. That establishes the fact that we are talking about an organization of spiritual Israel that was established upon the 12 apostles of Christ. The length of the wall of the city-like temple is 144 cubits. That's to symbolize the 144,000 individual members who are like stones that are supporting the symbolic stucture. So there definitely is a connection between the 144,000 spiritual Israelites and the faithful slave who is appointed as a stewart over them during the period immediately prior to Christ's arrival.
As Jesus might say, truly the kingdom of God has overtaken you. / You Know
Absolute balderdash.
A complete hodge podge of bits and pieces from all over the Bible. No continuity, logic or even very much intelligence.
Truly Ray Franz made an enlightened decision when he rejected the purveyors of such untruths.
Englishman.
..... fanaticism masquerading beneath a cloak of reasoned logic.
Reminder of how accurate You Know has been in the past...
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false prophets and false christs that are scheduled to make their appearance during that time... Watchtower itself
Deuteronomy 13
This time I have to agree with logical. Deuteronomy 13 says it all on this subject: specifically, how to identify and feel about false prophets (YK for example). How can anyone, or any organization for that matter endlessly dance on the head of that particular pin. It’s so ludicrous.
YK said: “That process is even now underway, and can be evidenced by the fact that numerous Watchtower errors have already induced a faithless and vicious element within God's people to present themselves.”
Their errors have induced a faithless and vicious element. . . to what? See bullshit for what it is? If you’re going to claim to be “God’s channel” of communication – I think it’s reasonable that people would have certain expectations of anyone attaching themselves to that high office. And the WTS (including YK) have failed miserably according to the bible’s own litmus test. This argument is so redundant.
I realized that in endlessly going door to door (just as YK endlessly rants) with this “sky is falling” message – and then having people see that the sky never falls – only served to dishonor God, and make the scriptures a laughing stock. What kind of faith does this “boy who cried wolf” fairy tale create? What kind of confidence does this failed message inspire? None - except to frighten people into jettisoning their lives in favor of serving and enriching a human corporation.
Beyond that, I have to wonder – doesn’t YK EVER get sick of hearing himself talk? A few years ago it was interesting (and sort of entertaining), now it’s just endless self-parody. Listening to him is enough to make a DC truly seem like a spiritual feast in contrast.
Just kidding. Nothing could do that, ha, ha.
This time I have to agree with logical. Deuteronomy 13 says it all on this subject: specifically, how to identify and feel about false prophets (YK for example).
The foolishness of that view is evident by the way in which apostates try to pretend that the prophecy in question emanates from the Watchtower or even from me personally. It doesn't of course, and anyone with an ounce of common sense realizes that no man can add to or take away from Jesus' words. Jesus is no false prophet. In fact his words are dead-on the spot, more so than we have previously appreciated. Seeing, then, that Jesus' prophecy clearly foretold the now ongoing apostasy, all that a squirming apostate can hope to do is somehow create a sideshow diversion to distract themselves and others from the glaring spotlight of Jehovah's word that I merely focused to shine in their darkened little corner. / You Know
Light from the dark corner -
“Jesus is no false prophet. . . “
Perhaps not, the jury is still out on that one, and has been for a few thousand years now.
The obvious point of my post though, was that based on the defining characteristics described in De 13 – the WTS (who claims to speak on Jesus’ behalf) and you, YK, are false prophets.
Seriously following your prognostications, or those of the WT would be the equivalent of the Israelites wandering the wilderness indefinitely, with Moses telling them soon, soon, soon, we’ll be entering the promised land. Do you think they’d have gone for 120 years of that?
Did Jehovah expect them too? Then why provide the many evident miracles secondary to Jehovah’s promise that occurred to sustain Moses authority and connection to God – as his true spokesman?
As Jesus (the true prophet said): “The scribes and the Pharisees (or any others who falsely claim divine authority) have seated themselves in the seat of Moses . . . for they say but do not perform.”
So even with him, performance was an issue.
I repeat: I realized that in endlessly going door to door (just as YK endlessly rants) with this “sky is falling” message – and then having people see that the sky never falls – only served to dishonor God, and made the scriptures a laughing stock. What kind of faith does this “boy who cried wolf” fairy tale create? What kind of confidence does this failed message inspire? None - except to frighten people into jettisoning their lives in favor of serving and enriching a human corporation.
Performance was an issue with me as well.
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