Ressurection question

by Sookie 108 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  dan

  The thief could very well have been baptized vicariously shortly after his death or have been baptized vicariously at any time since then. That's what baptism for the dead is all about. I am in no way painted into a corner by the fact that he died on the cross. It's the people who have to introduce extra-scriptural assumptions into their doctrine in an effort to reconcile the Bible with their doctrine that are painted into a corner.

  Sorry about the lack of breaks. I'm new to the whole forum thing.

  And my "holy underwear" have nothing to do with what you think you know about my church. If you want to post your problems with our doctrine I will promptly explain why we believe what we believe. If you think you know more than me than I'll promptly explain why you're mistaken.
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  barry

  The Jewish sect as referred to in Corinthians 15;29 baptized for the dead but I see no indication that this practice is valid christian teaching it is simply saying 'you jews baptize for the dead but dont beleive in the ressurrection. Please Dan read some bible commentries on this passage. Barry
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  ellderwho

  Dan,

  The thief could very well have been baptized vicariously shortly after his death or have been baptized vicariously at any time since then.

  Then contradict yourself here;

  It's the people who have to introduce extra-scriptural assumptions into their doctrine in an effort to reconcile the Bible with their doctrine .

  But your the one introducing "extra scriptural assumptions" not me.

  Hence, the baptisism of the thief is NOT scriptural.

  But you need it to be.

  Your doctrine is what it is; "extra scriptural".

  Thanks for the breaks.
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  ellderwho

  Barry,

  LOL love your avatar. Im a big fan.

  Will you agree this is Paul asking a sorta of retotical question?

  E
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  Deputy Dog

  Dan

  If you want to post your problems with our doctrine I will promptly explain why we believe what we believe. If you think you know more than me than I'll promptly explain why you're mistaken.

  The problem with you and your church is, that you can believe something and deny it at the same time. Your whole belief is based on your feeling about the BOM, not the facts. D Dog
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  dan

  elderwho, I never claimed to be chained down to the Bible, but the rest of y'all do, and that is why I was pointing out that you're contradicting yourselves.

  deputy dog, what are the facts, then?
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  Deputy Dog

  Dan

  Here is a Fact

  DNA evidence very plainly and simply demonstrates that there never was any Hebrew migration to the Americas in ancient times. If this is true, then virtually all the history of the Americas as recounted in the Book of Mormon is based on not just an unprovable premise (as some have claimed), but on a premise that can actually be proven empirically as false.

  D Dog

  PS Take the mormon challenge @ www.mormonchallenge.com
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  barry

  Something like that elderwho Ivr been mistaken fopr John Cleese but I dont think I look Like him much.

  Paul was simply pointing out an inconsistancy in the beleif system of this Jewish sect, 'you baptize for the dead but dont beleive in the ressurrection' would that mean not beleiveing in the ressurrection was biblical too?

  Anyway Dan I allways invite the missionarys in when they come around my Dad is an SDA elder and he has recording of the morman choir he plays almost every week after church. Barry
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  Deputy Dog

  Dan

  If you don't believe me, take it from one of your mormon brothers

  "I think it's fair to conclude that the Book of Mormon is a work of fiction," he states, flat as fact. Thomas Murphy, chairman of the Ed-monds Community College Anthropology Department

  In fact, says Murphy, DNA data, as well as anthropological studies, indicate American Indians are descended from Northeast Asians who migrated across the Bering Sea between 7,000 and 50,000 years ago.

  D Dog
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  dan

  Deput, the only studies that can be interpreted that way are twenty year old studies that come to this conclusion, "We don't know." You have decided to make "FALSE!!!!" the default conclusion. RECENT studies have shown to corroborate all of the claims that the Book of Mormon states. I'll be more than happy to share those references with you tomorrow.

  Y'know, I heard a dean of a community college tell me that Elvis was still alive, but his title didn't make him omniscient any more than my glasses make I smart.

  Barry that's pretty cool. They are the best choir in the world.