by Sookie 108 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
>>>>>>>"Kenneson, Here is a secret that Dan won't talk about, that is they still believe in polygamy. They believe that to have Eternal life a woman must be married and a man must be married to more than one wife. So to get around the law of man, they marry by proxy after death just as they baptize after death. Right Dan?"Nope. This is another lie.
Present evidence or quit whining.
Well, you seem to be demanding the same of me, so I fail to see how your argument logically trumps mine so as to render your responsibility towards evidence null and void.
There's a big difference. Burden of proof lies with the one making the claim, not with an skeptic to disprove it. Sure, for many claims you can show counter-evidence, but when a claim is unfalsifiable that can't be done.
We're only sojourners here on the earth, trying to find our way back to our heavenly origins.
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Present evidence or quit whining.
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I fail to see how your argument logically trumps mine so as to render your responsibility towards evidence null and void.
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"NU-uh. You're a liar. You're wrong. You're stupid. There's, like, zero evidence to support it,
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Nope. This is another lie.
Still waiting Dan,
elder, that isn't any kind of intellectual presentation, it's just a collection of things that you think will stir up emotions within me. I'm not here to manipulate or be manipulated. If you want to discuss something please remove the patronization. If you just want to score points with the other people in the forum then you find someone else to do it with.
deputy, we do not believe in polygamy. Cool?
Dan
Then Explain D&C 132
D Dog
What would you like me to explain about it?
Basically a summation of your reasoning,
You hit and run, No biblical challenges as you threaten. Your still empty handed with vicarious baptism.
Dan
You said
I know more about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints than anyone in this forum.
And you don't know what D&C 132 has to do with polygamy. Maybe I know something about your church, that you don't.
D Dog
Look, deputy, I assume you're going to try to infer that section 132 means that if you don't live polygamy that you're damned, right? IIf I'm wrong then tell me how. That's not what it means at all. If you want to point out where you believe it says that I will be more than happy to show you what it really means. Section 132 is about marriage. Some of it touches upon polygamy, but it says nothing about a requirement to live it. It says: "if any man espouse a virgin, and desire to espouse another, and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified". The part that says, "I reveal unto you a new and everlasting covenant; and if ye abide not that covenant, then are ye damned; for no one can reject this covenant and be permitted to enter into my glory" is talking about marriage, plain and simple. Read D&C 131 and you'll understand.
Elderwho, if one scripture from the Bible is not enough to corroborate truth then you're going to have to throw out a lot of mainstream Christian ideas. Your ideas concerning I Corinthians 15:29 are just an interpretation, and arguing interpretive capacities is as pointless as arguing with a box of hair. I will not debate over which interpretation is better. If you'd like to present some other argument about baptism for the dead I'd be happy to continue, but if the argument is going to continue, "Nu-uh. That's not what it means, it means this," I'm not going to participate. If that's not good enough for you then I apologize.
http://www.carm.org/lds/ldspapyri.htm
http://www.mindspring.com/~engineer_my_dna/mormon/facsimil.htm
The Book of Abraham's problems are overwhelming! This alone, for me, uncovers Joseph Smith as a fraud.
Also: I have the original facisimiles of the BoM and D&C (2 volume set of D&C) sold by the LDS church. It is impossible to read thru them without finding words, phrases, and even entires sentences and paragraphs added or deleted--I've done this with Mormon missionaries, several times, who have double-checked on this, and finally admitted that those changes were significant.
Thousands and thousands of changes come inside Mormonisms own sacred writings in less than 200 years--and this not due to translation issues. All compared editions were printed in the US, in English. Oh the irony, that Jospeh Smith spurned the Bible as being corrupted over the millenia... and his own writings were corrupted inside 100 years!
Go figger.
bebu
